Chiefs NFL Advisory Board says Sanchez is a 2nd Rounder? - Page 5

Chiefnj2 · 01-16-2009, 12:07 PM

according to Pete Carroll, Sanchez's draft evaluation ranked him as a 2nd rounder.

15-Jan-09In strong disagreement
Carroll reveals why he disagrees with Sanchez’s decision to turn pro early

By Ben Malcolmson
USCRipsIt
PeteCarroll.com

After days of deliberation, Coach Pete Carroll and Mark Sanchez agreed to disagree.

But that definitely doesn’t mean Carroll is content with Sanchez’s decision to forgo his senior season and declare for the NFL Draft.

Carroll fleshed out his disagreement with Sanchez’s decision during a passionate exclusive interview with USCRipsIt about an hour after the quarterback’s announcement on Thursday morning.

“The facts are so strong against this decision,” Carroll said. “After analyzing all the information, the truth is there — he should’ve stayed for another year.”

Carroll cited a study that shows 62 percent of underclassmen quarterbacks who declare early for the Draft eventually don’t pan out in the NFL. He also pointed to Sanchez’s NFL Draft evaluation, which projected Sanchez as a second-round selection.

“Mark’s chance to increase his value and become the top player in college football next year would have been worth $10-$20 million or more — likely more,” Carroll said. “One more year of running a team is almost priceless, so he lost the chance to fully prepare himself and become the very best he could be before going to the NFL.

“That’s why there’s a 62 percent failure rate for underclassmen quarterbacks.”

During the press conference, Sanchez repeatedly referred to achieving a lifelong dream as to one of the reasons he made this decision.

“We have always been in full support of Mark pursuing his dream,” Carroll said, “he just should have postponed realizing his dream another 12 months.”

Carroll stressed that his advice to Sanchez throughout the last two weeks had the quarterback’s interests in mind, not his team’s.

“I’m trying to help him be the best he can be, and that would’ve been to stay in school another year and increase his value,” Carroll said. “The facts are there. And he knew all of it, but that’s what he wanted to do it, so we wish him the best.”

Carroll wasn’t alone in his disagreement.

“His family didn’t want it and everybody else told him he should’ve stayed,” Carroll said. “Also, he let go of the opportunity to affect the people around the university and the community, something that would’ve been unforgettable.”

Although he remained strong in his disagreement, Carroll emphasized that he still supports Sanchez and knows he “will always be a special member of the Trojan family.”

“Even though we disagree, I still support him and we’re going to try to help him in any way we can,” Carroll said. “It’s like a family member — you’re not going to stop loving him just because he makes a bad choice.

“Hopefully he’ll overcome the history of these decisions and the people’s opinions out there and becomes very successful.”

Rigodan · 01-17-2009, 12:53 PM

I think Sanchez should be a top 10 pick too. Either way this thread has to be bumped on draft day.

Geason Noceur · 01-17-2009, 01:03 PM

Sanchez made a good decision. He knows that he's not going beat Stafford for the No. 1 spot, but he also knows that there's at least two teams in the top 10 that need QBs. Stafford will probably save him from ending up in Detroit while he'll still be taken in the top 10 and by a better team than the Lions.

Mecca · 01-17-2009, 01:13 PM

Sanchez is locked at worst as the 2nd QB in the draft which makes him a high pick...the NFL committee always seems to give guys overly low grades when they ask, it's like they purposely tell them a lower round like they don't want them to come out.

They told DaJuan Morgan he was like a 5th round pick.

Mecca · 01-17-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I agree. I think he was afraid he could slip behind Bradford, Tebow, McCoy and a host of darkhorses like FeFevour (sp) and Rusty Smith.

Are you high...

eazyb81 · 01-17-2009, 01:16 PM

I'm sure it's already been said, but the NFL Draft Advisory Board is very conservative with their draft grades, and they have an incentive to be since they don't want kids declaring because they received a favorable evaluation and then they drop in the draft.

Sanchez won't fall out of the top ten.

Ultra Peanut · 01-17-2009, 01:30 PM

It seems kind of like the opposite of the NBA people telling six hundred prospects that they're late first-rounders.

BWillie · 01-17-2009, 01:51 PM

Anyone else shocked that Pete Carroll is making these comments? Just doesn't sound classy to me. He could have left it as "I wish he would have came back, we could have used him for another year. He's a great player, but we wish him luck"

Geason Noceur · 01-17-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

Anyone else shocked that Pete Carroll is making these comments? Just doesn't sound classy to me. He could have left it as "I wish he would have came back, we could have used him for another year. He's a great player, but we wish him luck"

I don't think he handled the situation well. It's okay that he was honest, but dirty laundry should be kept in house. If he had a problem with Sanchez decision tell him in private instead of ripping him in front of the press. He could take a lesson on how he could have handled the situation from Mark Richt. Richt knew that declaring as a junior is very risky, and he told his players that, but once they made their decisions he supported them in public and didn't turn his back on them. That's how it's supposed to be done. Not to mention that it helps with recruiting.

Mecca · 01-17-2009, 02:18 PM

Carroll kind of changed his tune after saying he loves Mark and he could sleep in his office if he wanted to and stuff like that.

It's a big mixture of alot of stuff, from hurting his team for next year, to probably feeling like Sanchez didn't listen to him.

**SAUTO** · 01-17-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Carroll kind of changed his tune after saying he loves Mark and he could sleep in his office if he wanted to and stuff like that.

It's a big mixture of alot of stuff, from hurting his team for next year, to probably feeling like Sanchez didn't listen to him.

control freak?

Mecca · 01-17-2009, 02:28 PM

Most college coaches are...

Brock · 01-17-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Carroll kind of changed his tune after saying he loves Mark and he could sleep in his office if he wanted to and stuff like that.

It's a big mixture of alot of stuff, from hurting his team for next year, to probably feeling like Sanchez didn't listen to him.

And not giving a shit about how it affects Sanchez in the draft.

HC_Chief · 01-17-2009, 02:34 PM

I think Carrol is right. Sanchez should have stayed for his Sr season.

**SAUTO** · 01-17-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Most college coaches are...

yeah and most dont throw out that they think a kid isnt ready when they declare do they? most still put a good face on for the media

Mecca · 01-17-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

I think Carrol is right. Sanchez should have stayed for his Sr season.

When he goes in the top 10, people won't be saying this....

People will rise and slide from this point on I don't think some are aware that Stafford and Sanchez will do nothing but increase their stock in what happens now.

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Rigodan Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	I think Sanchez should be a top 10 pick too. Either way this thread has to be bumped on draft day.
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01-17-2009, 01:03 PM	#62
Geason Noceur Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Sanchez made a good decision. He knows that he's not going beat Stafford for the No. 1 spot, but he also knows that there's at least two teams in the top 10 that need QBs. Stafford will probably save him from ending up in Detroit while he'll still be taken in the top 10 and by a better team than the Lions.
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01-17-2009, 01:13 PM	#63
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-652950	Sanchez is locked at worst as the 2nd QB in the draft which makes him a high pick...the NFL committee always seems to give guys overly low grades when they ask, it's like they purposely tell them a lower round like they don't want them to come out. They told DaJuan Morgan he was like a 5th round pick.
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eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	I'm sure it's already been said, but the NFL Draft Advisory Board is very conservative with their draft grades, and they have an incentive to be since they don't want kids declaring because they received a favorable evaluation and then they drop in the draft. Sanchez won't fall out of the top ten.
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01-17-2009, 01:51 PM	#67
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1398759	Anyone else shocked that Pete Carroll is making these comments? Just doesn't sound classy to me. He could have left it as "I wish he would have came back, we could have used him for another year. He's a great player, but we wish him luck"
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-652950	Carroll kind of changed his tune after saying he loves Mark and he could sleep in his office if he wanted to and stuff like that. It's a big mixture of alot of stuff, from hurting his team for next year, to probably feeling like Sanchez didn't listen to him.
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01-17-2009, 02:34 PM	#73
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	I think Carrol is right. Sanchez should have stayed for his Sr season.
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