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Old 01-18-2009, 09:39 AM   #16
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2) KC would finally have a coach who cares more about winning than fans instead of other way around like we have had for 3 years.
Really only results matter, but Herm didn't seem to take losses very hard. It was strange. With Vermeil, he took loses so hard you wondered how he was going to make it through the next week.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:48 AM   #17
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It was strange. With Vermeil, he took loses so hard you wondered how he was going to make it through the next week.
Same thing when they won.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:51 AM   #18
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Im all for it.

Nobody have heard of guys like Mike Smith and John Harbaugh a year ago.

Bring on the change!
Zactly. That's why I chuckle at all the folks here whose list of coaches they want includes only well-known names (Marty, Cowher, Holmgren, Rat, Gruden). Some just want the security of a "proven winner," while others simply only know what they know.

I'm not going to judge a hire based solely on whether I know the guy or not. After all, many successful coaches weren't known until they became successful, right? How many people outside KC knew of Bill Cowher before Pittsburgh hired him?

I actually "know" Pasqualoni's name only because I remember him at Syracuse. But I have no idea what kind of coach he is or would be. Obviously Pioli has a better knowledge than I do. So if he chose P, I'd keep an open mind and judge the hire by the results.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:58 AM   #19
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I am not overly convinced of Miami's success. I still think their season reeks of "fluke."

That being said, I have a lot of trust in Pioli to make the right call, whether that means hiring a guy like Pasqualoni or keeping Herm Edwards.
Yes, winning 10 more games than the previous year must be a fluke.
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:59 AM   #20
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If coach P were hired this guy could be DC they worked together at syracuse.

Clarence Brooks
I doubt that. Brooks preceeded Pasqualoni at Syracuse and then he left for a lateral move to Arizona before Pasqualoni even became head coach.

http://www.suathletics.com/Sports/Fo...yearbyyear.asp

I'd say this guy is much much more likely:

http://www.atlantafalcons.com/People...enn_Pires.aspx
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:02 AM   #21
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This guy is going to be 60 when the 2009 season kicks off. Not saying that is a disqualifier, but hiring a 60 year old assistant isn't exactly what I had been picturing as the decision that will lead us to a decade of playoff glory.
Agree. I think Pioli is looking for a long term answer at head coach, and Pasqualoni would not fit the bill due to his age.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:05 AM   #22
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I actually "know" Pasqualoni's name only because I remember him at Syracuse. But I have no idea what kind of coach he is or would be. Obviously Pioli has a better knowledge than I do. So if he chose P, I'd keep an open mind and judge the hire by the results.
At Syracuse he started really well and built a good program, but it went in the tank toward the end. They haven't really recovered since. I'm not sure why it dropped so much.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:07 AM   #23
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I agree...however Kirk Ferentz who has been speculated to be one of Pioli's top candidates is going to be 54 in August.

I personally would like a young and upcoming coach also...who knows though when people are saying Pioli wanted Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz, a 22 year gap between those two.
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:55 AM   #24
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:15 AM   #25
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I'm not convinced the next head coach has to be somebody Pioli's worked with before. It might be someone he's just talked football with for a few hours. Todd Haley might be a good candidate. He's worked with Parcels with the Jets and Dolphins both. He's 41, closer to the age of both Clark and Pioli. And most importantly, he's NEVER been a coach under Herm Edwards.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:18 AM   #26
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This guy is going to be 60 when the 2009 season kicks off. Not saying that is a disqualifier, but hiring a 60 year old assistant isn't exactly what I had been picturing as the decision that will lead us to a decade of playoff glory.
The age thing bothers me. I am really hoping that whom ever Pioli chooses will be around for a long time. There are very few years left in a HEAD COACH at that age. If some one like this comes to KC hopefully there will be a predecessor with some youth ready to head up the success when the old guy steps down!
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:30 AM   #27
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I agree...however Kirk Ferentz who has been speculated to be one of Pioli's top candidates is going to be 54 in August.

I personally would like a young and upcoming coach also...who knows though when people are saying Pioli wanted Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz, a 22 year gap between those two.
Maybe that is because he is looking for the best coach, not the best "up and coming" coach or the best "retread" coach. The best, period.

I see people here advocate older established coaches, and others attack them for it and say we need a young up and coming coach. I think both views are wrong. We need to find the best coach, not based on age or any of that other stuff, but based only on how good a coach they are.

We should not limit ourselves in our search.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:31 AM   #28
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I agree...however Kirk Ferentz who has been speculated to be one of Pioli's top candidates is going to be 54 in August.

I personally would like a young and upcoming coach also...who knows though when people are saying Pioli wanted Josh McDaniels or Kirk Ferentz, a 22 year gap between those two.
Ferentz is younger than Herm Edwards...
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:36 AM   #29
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I completely agree...I was trying to show that I don't think Pioli is looking at age if you look at the age difference of his speculated 'top head coaching candidates'. I too hope he is looking for the best. Although I hope the 'best' is a bit on the younger end of the age spectrum. JMO. Sorry for any confusion.
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