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Old 01-20-2009, 04:06 PM  
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Uh oh. Chiefs denied Lions permission to speak to Gunther...


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Source: Lions were refused permission to talk to Gunther Cunningham
by Tom Kowalski
Tuesday January 20, 2009, 4:17 PM

MOBILE, Ala. -- According to a league source, the Lions were initially refused permission to talk to Kansas City defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham about taking the same position with Detroit.

The Chiefs might be in a transition period with new general manager Scott Pioli deciding the fate of head coach Herm Edwards. According to the source, the Lions are waiting to see if the Chiefs will eventually grant Cunningham permission to talk to the Lions.

Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who said he was going to take his time in putting together a staff, coached for three years with Cunningham when they were both with the Tennessee Titans. Schwartz has been busy at the Senior Bowl interviewing candidates for coordinator and assistant coaching jobs but, so far, no job has been filled.

Schwartz is expected to return to Detroit Wednesday evening and that's when he's expected to also interview many members of the Lions' current staff. Those Detroit coaches, who are all at the Senior Bowl, have been granted permission to seek jobs with other teams, but Schwartz reserves the right to refuse any possible deal and keep that coach with the Lions.

"Everything's just kind of up in the air,'' said one of Detroit's assistants.

"I'm optimistic and I'd like to stay in Detroit. We'll see what happens,'' said another assistant.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:18 PM   #16
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It's looking more every day like you will be keeping Herm this year, no?
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:19 PM   #17
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:20 PM   #18
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:21 PM   #19
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My god, retaining Herm would be bad enough. Retaining Herm AND Gunther? I'd have to re-evaluate my opinion of Pioli's sanity.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:21 PM   #20
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Why wouldn't you let Gun speak with Detroit especially when you have already allowed other assistant coaches to leave?

Confusion and irritation is all I can say about this bit of news.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:22 PM   #21
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"But Gunther didn't get to run his defense!" - /Gun Supporter Drop this guy, Scott!!

Maybe Pioli is wanting to let the group go all at once. Sweep them out Pioli! PLEASE!!!
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:23 PM   #22
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:23 PM   #23
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Think outside the box. Pioli won't tip his hand, nor will he give any other team any sort of help right now. He can still clean house. He just may not be doing it the way any of us would like it to happen.
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The only way this can make any sense to me, is that they want to give the new HC the opportunity to fire or retain him. Just like Clark did with Herm.
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It only says that they initially did. It does not say that they aren't now. I think it implies that they have given permission as of now. Also, it doesn't say when the Chiefs denied permission first. That could have been before Pioli was hired. We could have said to wait until we have a new GM.
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Source: Lions were refused permission to talk to Gunther Cunningham
by Tom Kowalski
Tuesday January 20, 2009, 4:17 PM

MOBILE, Ala. -- According to a league source, the Lions were initially refused permission to talk to Kansas City defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham about taking the same position with Detroit.
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Old 01-20-2009, 04:25 PM   #28
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It only says that they initially did. It does not say that they aren't now. I think it implies that they have given permission as of now. Also, it doesn't say when the Chiefs denied permission first. That could have been before Pioli was hired. We could have said to wait until we have a new GM.
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Source: Lions were refused permission to talk to Gunther Cunningham
by Tom Kowalski
Tuesday January 20, 2009, 4:17 PM

MOBILE, Ala. -- According to a league source, the Lions were initially refused permission to talk to Kansas City defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham about taking the same position with Detroit.
Sure, ambiguous wording, but nowhere does it say they were later granted permission.
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