Chiefs Official KCChiefs.com announcement: New coaches - Page 21

Christofire · 05:38 PM

(Must not ... make ... shanahan ... joke ...) Ah, what the hell -- I can't resist. THE DEALS ARE DONE!!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...g_staff_moves/

Kansas City Chiefs Announce Coaching Staff Moves
Feb 17, 2009, 5:17:14 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Tuesday that the club has made several additions to head coach Todd Haley’s coaching staff. The following coaches have been retained by the Chiefs: Bob Bicknell, Joe D’Alessandris, Chan Gailey, Tim Krumrie, Brent Salazar and Cedric Smith. The following assistant coaches are joining the Chiefs staff:

Joel Collier – Collier owns 17 seasons of experience coaching in the professional ranks. He most recently enjoyed a three-year stint with New England (2005-07). Prior to joining the Patriots, he spent 11 seasons with Miami (’94-04). Collier served his first tour of duty with New England from ‘91-93, spending time on the coaching staff and as a pro scout. He began his NFL career as an offensive assistant with Tampa Bay (’90) after serving as a graduate assistant at Syracuse (’88-89).

Gary Gibbs – A 29-year coaching veteran, Gibbs most recently served a three-year stint as defensive coordinator with New Orleans (2006-08). He entered the NFL ranks as linebackers coach with Dallas (2002-05). Gibbs broke into the coaching profession at his alma mater, the University of Oklahoma, as a graduate assistant in ‘75 and was eventually promoted to linebackers coach (’78-80), defensive coordinator (’81-88) and head coach (’89-94) He also served as defensive coordinator at Georgia (2000) and LSU (2001).

Steve Hoffman – Hoffman owns 19 years of NFL coaching experience. He most recently spent a two-year tour with Miami as kicking coach (2008) and assistant special teams coach (2007). He served as assistant special teams coach with the Atlanta (2006) after a 16-year association with Dallas (’89-04), where he served as kicking coach (’89-98) and kicking/defensive quality control coach (’99-04). He began his coaching career at the University of Miami (’85-87).

Bill Muir – Muir is a veteran of 31 NFL seasons and owns a total of 44 seasons of coaching experience. He most recently served as the offensive coordinator/offensive line coach for Tampa Bay (2002-08). He has also enjoyed NFL coaching stops with the N.Y. Jets (’95-01), Philadelphia (’92-94), Indianapolis (’89-91), Detroit (’85-88) and New England (’82-84). He began his NFL career in the player personnel department with Tampa Bay (’78-81). He coached collegiately at SMU (’76-77), Idaho State (’72-73), Rhode Island (’70-71), Delaware Valley (’66-67) and Susquehanna (’65). The Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania native also coached professionally for Houston/Shreveport (’74-75) of the World Football League.

Clancy Pendergast – Pendergast owns 14 seasons of experience in the NFL coaching ranks. He spent the past five campaigns as a defensive coordinator with Arizona (2004-08). Prior to guiding the Cardinals defensive unit, Pendergast spent one season with Cleveland (2003) after enjoying a seven-year tenure with Dallas (’96-02). He began his NFL coaching career with Houston (’95). He began his coaching career in the collegiate ranks as a graduate assistant with Mississippi State (’91) and enjoyed stops at Southern California (’92), Oklahoma (’93-94) and Alabama-Birmingham (’95). Pendergast graduated from the University of Arizona in ‘90.

Pat Perles – Perles owns 21 years of coaching experience, including two years in the NFL. He spent the previous six seasons at North Dakota State (2003-08), including the final four campaigns as the offensive coordinator. Perles previously served as the offensive line coach at his alma mater of Michigan State (2000-02). He spent six seasons in the Canadian Football League with Hamilton (’98-99), Winnipeg (’97) and Saskatchewan (’94-96). He began his NFL coaching career with the L.A. Rams (’92-93) after working as the defensive line coach for three years with Toledo (’89-91).

Dedric Ward – Ward spent the past two seasons as a member of Arizona Cardinals offensive coaching staff along with current Chiefs head coach Todd Haley. In 2007, Ward served as a quality control coach, working intensely with the Cardinals wide receivers. In 2008, the Cedar Rapids, Iowa native entered his second season as a quality control coach, working closely with the club’s running backs. Ward began his coaching career as wide receivers coach at Missouri State University in 2006.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Exactly.

For all the overuse of the phrase "true fan", shouldn't there be a phrase for people who aren't or will never be happy with anything the Chiefs do? What do you call that? A "poo fan"?

We just spent 20 years in a system that was nothing but a good ole boy network, and the first significant hires that the new regime makes are a bunch of retreads from their good ole boy network who were dismal failures with elite talent.

If you replace Hitler, and the new autocrat starts acting like Stalin, should you be pleased that Hitler is no longer there?

orange · 02-17-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We just spent 20 years in a system that was nothing but a good ole boy network, and the first significant hires that the new regime makes are a bunch of retreads from their good ole boy network who were dismal failures with elite talent.

If you replace Hitler, and the new autocrat starts acting like Stalin, should you be pleased that Hitler is no longer there?

Maybe a bad analogy. Mussolini to Hitler would be an upgrade.

stevieray · 02-17-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't have to deem the players "good". Anyone who knows their ass from a hole in the ground would tell you that those are very, very good players.

You didn't even know if Bertrand Berry was good or not. You just spouted off that he sucked 5 years ago in Denver (which he didn't). You have 0 credibility in this discussion.

well those very, very, very, good players didn't rank very high.

that's why I posted IIRC..and upon further review in the thread , it looks like he had one good year five years ago...so, it's not like he was on fire...it's taken him all 12 years to become a solid player.

and for you think you are the credibiltiy sheriff of the board is nothing short of hilarious...oh look someone made a mistake....oh noooooooooooes, my poor fragile sensibilities.

ChiefsCountry · 02-17-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We just spent 20 years in a system that was nothing but a good ole boy network, and the first significant hires that the new regime makes are a bunch of retreads from their good ole boy network who were dismal failures with elite talent.

Not real happy about the hires but the whole NFL is a good ole boy network.

**doomy3** · 02-17-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Haley's offense puts a premium on the vertical passing game.

There is no way in hell that they can watch film of Thigpen and reach the conclusion that he is the QB moving forward.

His accuracy beyond 10 yards is pathetic.

I agree with this, if he is keeping his same offense.

beavis · 02-17-2009, 09:06 PM

Funny how everyone is ready to jump off the bandwagon already. I think I'll give Pioli a little more than a month to prove he doesn't know what he's doing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-17-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

well those very, very, very, good players didn't rank very high.

that's why I posted IIRC..and upon further review in the thread , it looks like he had one good year five years ago...so, it's not like he was on fire...it's taken him all 12 years to become a solid player.

and for you think you are the credibiltiy sheriff of the board is nothing short of hilarious...oh look someone made a mistake....oh noooooooooooes, my poor fragile sensibilities.

Adrian Wilson is one of the top 3 strong safeties in the game, DRC is going to be a top 5 corner, Dansby and Dockett are playmakers, and Berry has always been a very good player. He had 26 sacks in two years in a 4-3 and is getting really solid numbers as a 3-4 end, which isn't a position where you generate sacks from.

Frazod · 02-17-2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by beavis

Funny how everyone is ready to jump off the bandwagon already. I think I'll give Pioli a little more than a month to prove he doesn't know what he's doing.

Keeping Krumrie has really messed me up. I figured he'd get shot out of ****ing cannon the day the season ended. How can the guy who coached the worst defensive line in history keep his job? I don't get it.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-17-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

We just spent 20 years in a system that was nothing but a good ole boy network, and the first significant hires that the new regime makes are a bunch of retreads from their good ole boy network who were dismal failures with elite talent.

If you replace Hitler, and the new autocrat starts acting like Stalin, should you be pleased that Hitler is no longer there?

Yes. And this is a completely different "good ole boy" network. Most of these guys fell from the Parcells tree, and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

I don't understand why any coach with experience is now being considered a "retread." Where is that coming from? Fresh and new ideas are great for head coaches and coordinators, but they're not overly important for positions coaches. At the end of the day, all that matters is: "can he coach players?"

Pendergast and Gibbs and Muir were obviously respected enough as positions coaches to earn coordinator positions. I don't know why people are judging how good a positions coach will be based on how well he coordinated a defense. And besides, given how late we are in the hire game, who's to say that any of these guys are a long-term solution? Maybe some of these guys are just stopgaps until next year when we can bring in the best. But I see no reason why these guys couldn't be effective positions coaches.

Chiefs Pantalones · 02-17-2009, 09:12 PM

So what are the titles of these guys?

Mr. Laz · 02-17-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

more like the shitty nature of it's fans.

then why around you hanging around us "shitty" people?

Mecca · 02-17-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

So what are the titles of these guys?

suck, shit, shitpants, shithead

basically something that stats with an S will be their titles

Mr. Laz · 02-17-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Keeping Krumrie has really messed me up. I figured he'd get shot out of ****ing cannon the day the season ended. How can the guy who coached the worst defensive line in history keep his job? I don't get it.

it's not his fault apparently

herm and goonther made him do it

Stryker · 02-17-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Yes it can ... two games worse.

Perfection is still within reach!

It ain't gonna happen.

stevieray · 02-17-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Adrian Wilson is one of the top 3 strong safeties in the game, DRC is going to be a top 5 corner, Dansby and Dockett are playmakers, and Berry has always been a very good player. He had 26 sacks in two years in a 4-3 and is getting really solid numbers as a 3-4 end, which isn't a position where you generate sacks from.

how could any of these players be this successful, if the coach is so crappy...? oh I forgot you like to give credit where it supports your argument.

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