Whitlock: Chiefs’ All-Pro guard Waters wants out of Kansas City

[dirk digler]

This story could have some implications in regards to FA. Alot of FA's might have had the Chiefs on their radar but now they see this story and think if this is how they treat a loyal veteran respected Pro Bowl player why would I want to go there.

Second this isn't really about football or the NFL this is just like the majority of us that have real jobs. If you went to your immediate boss and he told you that some scrub could come off the street and do your job better, well in Mecca's case that is true, but for the rest of us we would probably be pissed off and felt disrespected. It is really all about treating people with respect.

Brian Waters isn't LJ the guy has been a loyal soldier and yes he supported Herm just like he supported DV and Gunther before him. He has always been a team player.

Also just curious how does it make sense for the HC and GM to have an adversarial relationship with players? Belichick doesn't even have that his player love him.

Just my .02 cents.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This story could have some implications in regards to FA. Alot of FA's might have had the Chiefs on their radar but now they see this story and think if this is how they treat a loyal veteran respected Pro Bowl player why would I want to go there.

Second this isn't really about football or the NFL this is just like the majority of us that have real jobs. If you went to your immediate boss and he told you that some scrub could come off the street and do your job better, well in Mecca's case that is true, but for the rest of us we would probably be pissed off and felt disrespected. It is really all about treating people with respect.

Brian Waters isn't LJ the guy has been a loyal soldier and yes he supported Herm just like he supported DV and Gunther before him. He has always been a team player.

Also just curious how does it make sense for the HC and GM to have an adversarial relationship with players? Belichick doesn't even have that his player love him.

Just my .02 cents.

Go up to the guy who runs your company during the busiest time of the year...and ask him for a sit down meeting pertaining to the future of the company and watch the reaction you are given.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Go up to the guy who runs your company during the busiest time of the year...and ask him for a sit down meeting pertaining to the future of the company and watch the reaction you are given.

That's true.

But the reaction of your supervisor should be a helluva lot different.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Rausch

That's true.

But the reaction of your supervisor should be a helluva lot different.

Yep.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Go up to the guy who runs your company during the busiest time of the year...and ask him for a sit down meeting pertaining to the future of the company and watch the reaction you are given.

I do and have and I work with him almost every day.

My point was more directed at Haley then Pioli because Pioli is running the company not Haley.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I do and have and I work with him almost every day.

My point was more directed at Haley then Pioli because Pioli is running the company not Haley.

I'll say what I said earlier about Haley which was..

I think the point of that comment, if he did say it would be, "You're on a 2-14 team stop acting self important" alot of Chiefs players seem to have this attitude where they think they're something special and have accomplished all sorts of great things and deserved to be treated like they are hot shit.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll say what I said earlier about Haley which was..

I think the point of that comment, if he did say it would be, "You're on a 2-14 team stop acting self important" alot of Chiefs players seem to have this attitude where they think they're something special and have accomplished all sorts of great things and deserved to be treated like they are hot shit.

If he said that would be appropriate.

But he said this supposedly, " by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games", which is not appropriate.

You know you could take that quote and say that Haley was criticizing the players and absolving the coaching staff.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

You know you could take that quote and say that Haley was criticizing the players and absolving the coaching staff.

You could also take it to mean exactly the opposite.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

You could also take it to mean exactly the opposite.

I suppose but he said it to a player which in the context meant Herm is a great coach and the players are idiots.

I doubt that is what he meant though.