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Old 02-27-2009, 01:24 PM  
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:10 PM   #211
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I'm guessing it will be a conditional pick. This sucks for Dorsey, though. I don't really see him working out as a 3-4 end. Maybe he'll get traded before the draft?
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:10 PM   #212
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This. I'll also throw in another reason I don't mind this move: accountability. You bring in a guy who has had that much success and install him on the defense, you young uns better be prepared to not **** up, because 99% of the time, he won't be missing his assignment...
The Patriots grade their players at the end of the season. There was one season that Vrabel didn't miss a single assignment. He was also one of the 2-3 main leaders in the locker room.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #213
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The Kansas City Chiefs were the youngest teams in football last year but new general manager Scott Pioli wanted to install some veteran leadership.

Pioli accomplished that task by trading an undisclosed draft choice to the Patriots for 33-year-old linebacker Mike Vrabel.

Vrabel is one of the leaders of the Patriots defense, and it will be his job to teach a good work ethic to the Chiefs.

In trading Vrabel, the Patriots cleared $3.35 million in cap room.

John Clayton covers the NFL for ESPN.com.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #214
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whats the pick??

if its a 5th, 6th or 7th is it that big of a deal?
We're not talking about Carl Peterson anymore.

We're talking about a guy who has shown he can hit on late round picks, so yeah, it is that big of a deal.

A 6th/7th round pick at least has a CHANCE of being a contributor when this team is competing for a Championship in 3-4 years.

There is NO CHANCE that Vrabel is still on this team when that day comes.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #215
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Well if you keep plugging away every min on Chiefs Planet maybe Pioli will start listening to you and your band of merry men.

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I consider Hamas/Mecca/and OTWP the chairmen of the DRAFTURBATORS...and they have a whole army of followers.

They'd rather have Kevin Robinson over Mike Vrabel...or Brian Johnston.

They want a roster full of 25 year old's with off-the-chart measurables...

These guys are going to HATE Pioli...the Patriots do things their way...these DRAFTURBATORS aren't going to like it...the ones that wanted Carl gone the most are going to be the ones that end up missing him more than anyone.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #216
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If it is a 3rd or 4th rounder it will become apparent really quickly as to who was the male and who was the female in the Belichick/Pioli relationship.
Yeah, true, this is admittedly wishful thinking on my part. Vrabel's still got enough left in the tank, though, that I wouldn't be psyched if it was a fifth or later.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:11 PM   #217
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The Patriots grade their players at the end of the season. There was one season that Vrabel didn't miss a single assignment. He was also one of the 2-3 main leaders in the locker room.
That was awesome when he did that... 6 years ago...
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:12 PM   #218
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Why don't you people freak out or something. BFD. We probably lost a 7th rounder. Too bad we're gonna miss out on this year's Micheal Merrit for an on-field coach who can show these idiots what the **** to do, because they OBVIOUSLY have no idea.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:12 PM   #219
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That was awesome when he did that... 6 years ago...
When he did it isn't important unless you're going to claim that he's got Alzheimers.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:13 PM   #220
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I don't have a problem with the move. We need leadership on defense in a bad way, and Pioli probably wants a few cops in the locker room. Further, I think we'll be acquiring one or two draft picks for existing players on our roster.

Heck, if Vrabel is worth a draft pick and Ryan Sims was worth a 6th round pick, LJ has to be worth something. Waters would probably fetch a 2nd or 3rd, although I'm not convinced that won't be worked out.
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I consider Hamas/Mecca/and OTWP the chairmen of the DRAFTURBATORS...and they have a whole army of followers.

They'd rather have Kevin Robinson over Mike Vrabel...or Brian Johnston.

They want a roster full of 25 year old's with off-the-chart measurables...

These guys are going to HATE Pioli...the Patriots do things their way...these DRAFTURBATORS aren't going to like it...the ones that wanted Carl gone the most are going to be the ones that end up missing him more than anyone.
ChiefsCountry kind of became a part of the life and death group as well. Pretty funny.

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Old 02-27-2009, 02:14 PM   #223
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I consider Hamas/Mecca/and OTWP the chairmen of the DRAFTURBATORS...and they have a whole army of followers.

They'd rather have Kevin Robinson over Mike Vrabel...or Brian Johnston.

They want a roster full of 25 year old's with off-the-chart measurables...

These guys are going to HATE Pioli...the Patriots do things their way...these DRAFTURBATORS aren't going to like it...the ones that wanted Carl gone the most are going to be the ones that end up missing him more than anyone.
You may be right. These guys are well known for bringing in these kinds of guys......and winning with them.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:14 PM   #224
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Well get used to it. The Patriots use their draft picks to make their team better...whether it be drafting a player, trading the pick for a player, or trading the pick for more picks (or better picks) down the road...

I'll take Vrabel and his leadership and ability to teach the young guys how to be professionals for two years over a coin flip between Kevin Robinson/Mike Merritt/Barry Richardson OR IF WE GET LUCKY Brandon Carr.

There is what, a 0.005% chance of landing a Tom Brady late in the draft?
And we could have just as easily signed his broke down ass after he was jettisoned.

I don't care if there is only a 5% chance of landing a good player in round 7. 5% is > 0.

You think it's a coincidence that teams like the Colts and Chargers are able to consistently find talent at the ass end of the draft? Players are there, but if you don't have picks, you can't find them, no matter how good your scouting is.
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We're not talking about Carl Peterson anymore.

We're talking about a guy who has shown he can hit on late round picks, so yeah, it is that big of a deal.

A 6th/7th round pick at least has a CHANCE of being a contributor when this team is competing for a Championship in 3-4 years.

There is NO CHANCE that Vrabel is still on this team when that day comes.
Yeah, but he can teach all those ****ing young guys on the defense how to be PROFESSIONALS...do you not realize the importance of this?

So they can learn from a leader like Vrabel and his work ethic so in 3-4 years when he's GONE they can pass down what they learned to the younger guys that are brought in at that time.

Do you really not understand this concept?

YOU NEED VETERANS...EVEN A TEAM THAT IS REBUILDING...YOU NEED GUYS THAT HELP THE YOUNG KIDS KEEP FOCUS.

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