Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 28

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

stevieray · 02-28-2009, 01:10 PM

I just got hat in the mail from the Chiefs..red with the AFL/LH patch on the front..

pretty cool.

Hootie · 02-28-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I can only say that I'm happy we didn't give up the farm to bring these guys in.

I don't like the deal because I don't believe that Matt GrCassel is all that good.

I'd take Cassel and Vrabel over Chad Jackson, that's for sure.

jidar · 02-28-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I can only say that I'm happy we didn't give up the farm to bring these guys in.

I don't like the deal because I don't believe that Matt GrCassel is all that good.

His stats are pretty good. So there is hope.
I mean a 89 QB rating for the season is nothing to sneeze at

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Neither is Mark Sanchez's.

You clearly don't know what the hell you are talking about.

No offense intended.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 02-28-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cosmos

Trade down is always a possibility.

I think you need to sit back and see what this team looks like after FA and the draft.

Pioli is just getting warmed up.

I don't get how anyone is so convinced that the QB that Detroit doesn't pick would be that much better that Cassel...

Nobody wants to move up in this draft. Period. There is a huge lack of top ten talent in this draft. No, I think the implosion happens when Detroit passes on Matthew Stafford.

tk13 · 02-28-2009, 01:11 PM

Well, there are some positives out of this move.

1.) We did acquire a young QB who we intend to develop as a franchise guy.
2.) Although I think he has some question marks, we are going to be developing him in pretty much the same system under the same type of leadership he had in his previous stop. It's not going to be a case of somebody playing for one coach and then going somewhere completely different under a different coach and trying to repeat the magic. Kind of the same thing as Trent Green, where he was able to come into a system he was very familiar with under the same leadership he had with the Rams, so the level of comfort should be high.

The negative is I don't know what you do with the 3rd pick if you don't draft Curry. Trading down and getting that 2nd back would reallly be cool, but we'll have to see on that.

But the potential is there that we just acquired our offense and defensive captains and leaders for a single draft pick. Definitely not a very safe deal, Very high risk deal, no doubt, it could be a sickening steal or it could flop. Although in reality if it does flop, we only lost a single 2nd round draft pick. Which has value (unless you're the Chiefs the last 15 years), but isn't the end of the world. The bigger test is not the draft pick but the number of years we've committed to Cassel now.

Either way, it's exciting that we're being extremely active in trying to get this thing turned around.

MTG#10 · 02-28-2009, 01:11 PM

If we got Vrabel AND Cassell for a 2nd rounder like Peter King is reporting, we just bent NE over and pounded them right in the ass.

Ultra Peanut · 02-28-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

would you be furious if your team lost an executive of the year and his former partner hooked up his friend with a starter kit for an AFC team for $0.60 on the $1?

Hell yeah.

I'm not even projecting whether I think this will be a success or an epic fail...but right now, this is a total, unbelievable steal...something that I refuse to believe until I see it.

I actually completely agree with you, for once.

A fair deal IS a rape, by the standards of previous "so-so QB for pick(s)" deals. Vrabel as a throw-in is way better than Vrabel for a 5th rounder or something, too. Considering the market value for someone like this, it's a mind-boggling deal.

HC_Chief · 02-28-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well like I said...Brees had a very rough start to his career in San Diego...they drafted a QB #1 overall a few years later...so who knows how he would have turned out in KC.

Brees had a rough time because that team was in shambles when he was drafted. He worked hard and led that team. I knew I liked the kid when I saw him at Arrowhead trying to rally the troops when we were shellacking the dolts. That kid doesn't have an ounce of quit in him.

He fell to the second because of his size. He isn't that "prototypical qb" the league drools over. I personally find that shit to be the reason so many qbs fail: teams look for 6'4", 230+lbs, with a rocket arm, rather than can the kid play?

DTLB58 · 02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

the chiefs have confirmed compensation is just the #34 overall for both players reported on NFLN

MadMax · 02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

Well, Matt Cassel is QB of the Kansas City Chiefs now. Let's all get behind him.

**** CASSEL **** PIOLI AND **** THE CHIEFS!!!!!!!!!

Brock · 02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

I actually completely agree with you, for once.

OTWP says it's a fair deal rather than a rape, but a fair deal IS a rape, by the standards of previous "so-so QB for pick(s)" deals. Vrabel as a throw-in is pretty nice, too.

Compared to the Schaub deal, the Chiefs certainly robbed the pats.

PastorMikH · 02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thebrad84

Peter King reports that the Chiefs send their 2nd round pick only. Is there any one that doesn't like the fact we picked up Mike Vrabel (proven LB leadership) and Matt Cassel (potential solid starting QB) for only a 2nd round pick? That is a helluva steal in my opinion.

Yep! Just heard it for myself on NFL network.

What a trade - Peterson could never have pulled both off for a 2nd round pick.

Pitt Gorilla · 02-28-2009, 01:13 PM

This seems like a great deal. A 2nd rounder isn't bad at all.

This makes Rosenfels for a 4th or whatever look pretty silly.

**Reaper16** · 02-28-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

If we got Vrabel AND Cassell for a 2nd rounder like Peter King is reporting, we just bent NE over and pounded them right in the ass.

On paper, its pretty okay.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1827500	Well, there are some positives out of this move. 1.) We did acquire a young QB who we intend to develop as a franchise guy. 2.) Although I think he has some question marks, we are going to be developing him in pretty much the same system under the same type of leadership he had in his previous stop. It's not going to be a case of somebody playing for one coach and then going somewhere completely different under a different coach and trying to repeat the magic. Kind of the same thing as Trent Green, where he was able to come into a system he was very familiar with under the same leadership he had with the Rams, so the level of comfort should be high. The negative is I don't know what you do with the 3rd pick if you don't draft Curry. Trading down and getting that 2nd back would reallly be cool, but we'll have to see on that. But the potential is there that we just acquired our offense and defensive captains and leaders for a single draft pick. Definitely not a very safe deal, Very high risk deal, no doubt, it could be a sickening steal or it could flop. Although in reality if it does flop, we only lost a single 2nd round draft pick. Which has value (unless you're the Chiefs the last 15 years), but isn't the end of the world. The bigger test is not the draft pick but the number of years we've committed to Cassel now. Either way, it's exciting that we're being extremely active in trying to get this thing turned around.
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