Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 32

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

MTG#10 · 02-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

To tell you the truth i dont like it. Tyler thigpen had a good season last year. So we reward him by sitting him on the bench. Ok cassell is here but i still would of wanted thigpen to try to win the starting job. The losing part that herm fault. His game planning suck. With thigpen we could of won a few more games. If not for herm shoddy game management. I'll give cassell a chance. Just let thigpen prove himself.
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Maybe Thigpen isnt automatically going to the bench. Im pretty sure there will be a QB competition in camp.

ChiefsCountry · 02-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

I bet.

I swear on my life. I loved Brees at Purdue, he was tough SOB who produced. He was short but you could tell he could make in the NFL.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

To tell you the truth i dont like it. Tyler thigpen had a good season last year. So we reward him by sitting him on the bench. Ok cassell is here but i still would of wanted thigpen to try to win the starting job. The losing part that herm fault. His game planning suck. With thigpen we could of won a few more games. If not for herm shoddy game management. I'll give cassell a chance. Just let thigpen prove himself.
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Given a choice between Cassel and Thigpen, I'll take Cassel every time.

Mr_Tomahawk · 02-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

What are Pats fans, and the AFC West rival boards saying about this?

****.

Hootie · 02-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'll be honest.

I wanted no part of Brees.

Exactly...this is why I like you more than the other drafturbators...you are objective and can admit when you are right and wrong.

I guarantee you Hamas was not a Brees fan in 2001...GUARANTEED...he doesn't have any of the measurables that dude jerks off to when it comes to QB's every year.

They would have cursed CP more than ever if we took Brees #12 overall.

**luv** · 02-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBobDole

34th overall pick for both Vrabel and Cassell ain't too bad.

This. Now get Curry

DrRyan · 02-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

It's, as I said, comparable to Leinart's, and it's that weak arm that has Leinart on the bench.

You are not seriously comparing Cassel's arm to Leinart's are you?

chiefzilla1501 · 02-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Four good years of pro bowl level QB play or four mediocre season with Derrick Johnson?

#12, #15...besides, I think the Rams drafted Damione Lewis or something...

Would the Chiefs have drafted Brees? Maybe, who knows?

Would he have panned out with KC? Maybe, who knows?

I do know that the Chargers drafted a QB #1 overall because Brees was a bust...or so they thought.

I know, hootie. I hate the brees comparison.

Brees was passed up once by almost every NFL team. Nobody knew anything about Brees and it would have been a reach for the Chiefs to draft him.

Just because we know now that Brees is a stud doesn't mean it was obvious in his draft year.

penchief · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so that changes things in the draft for us now doesnt it

I think it makes it easier to find a buyer for that third overall pick. A lot of teams who thought we might be using it on a quarterback will now be thinking that it might be a tackle or some other player that they covet.

DJ's left nut · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Not to interrupt, but you may want to ease back on the throttle somewhat, Mr. 'Hamas' Jenkins. It sounds as though you're implying that Pioli and Haley don't know how to evaluate quarterbacks. Nothing, obviously, could be further from the truth.

FAX

Or he could be implying, as I believe, that this was a coward's way out by Pioli.

He didn't want to risk bombing out with that first pick. So rather than take a risk on elite talent, he took known mediocrity in Cassel.

If I honestly thought that Pioli thinks Cassel is a better QB prospect than either of those guys, I guess I'd be secure in that knowledge and defer to Pioli. I don't believe that is the case, however.

And for the record, I don't think Todd Haley knows !@#% about how to evaluate QBs. Recognizing that you have one of the most accurate QBs in league history as a backup QB and deciding it may be a good idea to start him hardly wins him rave reviews in my book.

Midnight_Vulture · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

To the doubters of Cassell, you need to realize he is already a PROVEN winner in the NFL. He won 11 freakin games for the Pats. They put a hurtin on my Dolphins too at Miami.

Just sayin you guys ripped off the Pats completely and I am lovin it.

Brock · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The Chiefs put it all on the line. They weren't building for the long-term.

I understand that, and it's bad business. Not that any of this has any correlation to this new deal.

**The Bad Guy** · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Maybe Thigpen isnt automatically going to the bench. Im pretty sure there will be a QB competition in camp.

Yeah, Ok.

There is no competition. The Chiefs didn't trade for a guy to create "competition".

FloridaMan88 · 02-28-2009, 01:25 PM

Getting Cassel and still having the first round draft pick (and Vrabel thrown into the deal)... good trade by Pioli.

Also this move shows a glaring difference between Pioli and Dictator Carl. Go back to the Trent Green trade... Dictator Carl made it a 2 month process, in this situation Pioli obviously targeted Cassel from the start and wasted no time getting the guy he wanted.

**doomy3** · 02-28-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

You are not seriously comparing Cassel's arm to Leinart's are you?

Truth is, Cassel's arm strength is questionable just like Mark Sanchez's arm strength is questionable.

Although, Pats fans have said that Cassel's arm strength is better at this point in his career than Brady's was.

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Midnight_Vulture Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	To the doubters of Cassell, you need to realize he is already a PROVEN winner in the NFL. He won 11 freakin games for the Pats. They put a hurtin on my Dolphins too at Miami. Just sayin you guys ripped off the Pats completely and I am lovin it.
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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-657094	Getting Cassel and still having the first round draft pick (and Vrabel thrown into the deal)... good trade by Pioli. Also this move shows a glaring difference between Pioli and Dictator Carl. Go back to the Trent Green trade... Dictator Carl made it a 2 month process, in this situation Pioli obviously targeted Cassel from the start and wasted no time getting the guy he wanted.
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