Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 37

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

**Bowser** · 02-28-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what it comes down to for me, too.

I am willing to say that Pioli is going to be actively searching for a trade down partner now to make up for the loss of the second rounder.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-28-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

Anybody else surprised to learn, upon further review, that Matt Cassel rushed for 270 yards last year?

Nope. He's a mobile QB--a facet of this game that isn't talked about. But he isn't a guy who will tuck the ball under if he doesn't like his first read.

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

I have absolutely no doubt Pioli would love the trade down, but I'm not sure there will be a player sitting at #3 that will create enough desire to make a team want to trade up and give up a huge contract.

Depends on what happens with the QB's and OT's at the top.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

You're ignoring the fact we still have the #3.

I'd rather have Cassel, Vrabel, and the #3 pick over Sanchez and Merideth.

No. I'm not ignoring.

I believe that Sanchez is going to be a much better QB than Cassel.
If I'm right, then the trade isn't a good value.

I hope to hell I'm proven wrong.

Frosty · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Well, at least now, I'll only have to watch the first half hour of the draft coverage on that Saturday.

The "only a 2nd" would be more palatable if it weren't basically a late 1st. That's a really high "only a 2nd".

Oh well, what's done is done.

**luv** · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture

To the doubters of Cassell, you need to realize he is already a PROVEN winner in the NFL. He won 11 freakin games for the Pats. They put a hurtin on my Dolphins too at Miami.

Just sayin you guys ripped off the Pats completely and I am lovin it.

But is our o-line or receivers as good as the Pats?

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what it comes down to for me, too.

Exactly the bottom-line. No doubt about it, IMHO.

Nice job, Mr. Pioli.

Pioli Zombie · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant

Yeah I hoped he remembered Cassel had Moss and Welker at the Patriots and a top ten defense..

And Joe Montana had Rice and Taylor and a top ten defense Michael Smith said made this case on ESPN. Name a great qb who didn't have good people surrounding him
Not every qb could have done the things cassel did last year.

I saw a post where someone said cassel took them from 16-0 to 11-5
It was the patriot defense that caused 4 of those losses only the Indy game can an argument be made that Brady would have made the difference. A more intelligent analysis would be that with 95 percent of the qbs out there the patriots would have gone 8-8 or 9-7
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unothadeal · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

Pioli: Hey Bob. In exchange for Cassel and Vrabel I'll give you the thiiiiirrrrd....
Kraft: Deal!
Pioli:..iefourth overall

rad · 02-28-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

Cassell and Vrabel for 34th overall?

JIZZ IN MY PANTS!

What picks do we have left....I thought we drafted at #35 seeing as we are at #3?

wild1 · 02-28-2009, 01:44 PM

you don't trade down in advance. get tenative deals in place if you like, but wait until draft day and auction the pick off while you're on the clock.

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I am willing to say that Pioli is going to be actively searching for a trade down partner now to make up for the loss of the second rounder.

That's what I think too. He knows value.

And if we somehow get Cassel and Vrabel and end up with, say the #15 and #40 picks in the draft, Pioli might as well be annointed because he's a goddamn genious (CP spelling).

**wazu** · 02-28-2009, 01:44 PM

Cassel has as many 400 yard games as John Elway.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arc

Well, at least now, I'll only have to watch the first half hour of the draft coverage on that Saturday.

The "only a 2nd" would be more palatable if it weren't basically a late 1st. That's a really high "only a 2nd".

Oh well, what's done is done.

probably should have said "as of right now"

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

But is our o-line or receivers as good as the Pats?

I'm guessing we stock up on OL, WR, and DE....as much as possible in the draft and FA.

If we do, with the youth of this team and the talent we do have....we are on our way toward a big step forward.

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