Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 39

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

**dirk digler** · 02-28-2009, 01:48 PM

Wow holy shit I take the morning off and the Chiefs pull off a blockbuster trade. I am not a fan of Cassell at all but that is the way it goes. I hope he can do a good job for us.

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 01:48 PM

With all the second round picks this organization has pissed down it's leg...you'd think we would all be ECSTATIC that Pioli just filled our biggest need with the best option available at that position, this year, in either the draft or free agency.

And he got Vrabel thrown into the deal for extra. Nice.

Scott rocks.

**Saul Good** · 02-28-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Matt Ryan was last year's Drew Brees. A good/great college QB who put up numbers over a full career, but was marked down on draft boards for whatever reason.

Brees took hits for his size. Ryan didn't have that problem - he has the prototypical build (6'4", 220#), but coming out of Boston College, draft "experts" thought he did not face good enough competition.

Fact of the matter is both were overlooked QBs who proved they can play at a high level over several seasons.

Sanchez should have stayed in college!

Ryan was drafted 3rd and was the first QB taken. How does that compare with a second rounder?

melbar · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Or he could be implying, as I believe, that this was a coward's way out by Pioli.

He didn't want to risk bombing out with that first pick. So rather than take a risk on elite talent, he took known mediocrity in Cassel.

If I honestly thought that Pioli thinks Cassel is a better QB prospect than either of those guys, I guess I'd be secure in that knowledge and defer to Pioli. I don't believe that is the case, however.

And for the record, I don't think Todd Haley knows !@#% about how to evaluate QBs. Recognizing that you have one of the most accurate QBs in league history as a backup QB and deciding it may be a good idea to start him hardly wins him rave reviews in my book.

He had the 4th highest rating in the league. Just because he didnt have guys who dropped balls doesnt make him lesser. If anything it convicts us to make sure he has guys around him who wont drop balls.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Two words.

Tony.

Gonzales.

What if there are any legs to the rumor that Pioli is going to trade TG?

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Wow holy shit I take the morning off and the Chiefs pull off a blockbuster trade. I am not a fan of Cassell at all but that is the way it goes. I hope he can do a good job for us.

What I just said, bears repeating:

Pioli just filled our biggest need with the best option available at that position, this year, in either the draft or free agency.

|Zach| · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

Say we want to do draft down...think we have people interested in the 3rd pick?

BigRock · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Nobody screwed anybody in this trade. Both Belichick and Pioli know value.

When you're used to a GM who trades a 2nd round pick for Pat Surtain, it sorta feels like a steal.

Valiant · 02-28-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tboss27

Unbelievable that Pioli pulled this off. Now we don't waste time having to develop a young QB, the rebuilding process is about done on the offensive side of the ball. I bet LJ screws his head on and stops running like a little girl now that we have a legitimate QB who can play in a pro style offense. No more having to watch draw plays from the shotgun as our signature running style like last year. We draft Curry if he's there, if he's not I wouldn't mind Crabtree. Bowe, Crabtree, Gonzo would be a pretty dang good trio of weapons.

Isn't crabtree a possession WR?? Wouldn't we need a burner opposite of Bowe??

**doomy3** · 02-28-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what I think too. He knows value.

And if we somehow get Cassel and Vrabel and end up with, say the #15 and #40 picks in the draft, Pioli might as well be annointed because he's a goddamn genious (CP spelling).

Agree. Truth is, if you go by the draft value chart, we could end up with much more than the 15 and 40 picks for our #3. We could have another first in 2010 too.

**Rausch** · 02-28-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tboss27

Unbelievable that Pioli pulled this off. Now we don't waste time having to develop a young QB, the rebuilding process is about done on the offensive side of the ball.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. The fact is he's still a guy going into his second year as a starter, without his powerhouse offense, to a new team.

There will be growing pains. Trent Green wasn't a rookie, he was familar with the system, and it still took him 2 years to really start clicking.

rad · 02-28-2009, 01:50 PM

Maybe Cassell will ask to have his locker next to Pollards....seeing how he catapulted his career and all.

DJ's left nut · 02-28-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tboss27

Unbelievable that Pioli pulled this off. Now we don't waste time having to develop a young QB, the rebuilding process is about done on the offensive side of the ball. I bet LJ screws his head on and stops running like a little girl now that we have a legitimate QB who can play in a pro style offense. No more having to watch draw plays from the shotgun as our signature running style like last year. We draft Curry if he's there, if he's not I wouldn't mind Crabtree. Bowe, Crabtree, Gonzo would be a pretty dang good trio of weapons.

Find me the tape of Matt Cassel running a pro-style offense.

He's a spread monkey, same as Thigpen. He's just a taller spread monkey.

Fish · 02-28-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what I think too. He knows value.

And if we somehow get Cassel and Vrabel and end up with, say the #15 and #40 picks in the draft, Pioli might as well be annointed because he's a goddamn genious (CP spelling).

That would be one exciting opportunity with this draft.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

What if there are any legs to the rumor that Pioli is going to trade TG?

meh, IMO tony will probably be just fine with staying now. with that crappy arm lots say cassell has tg will be put to great use

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