Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 43

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

**Mr. Kotter** · 02-28-2009, 02:02 PM

Accuracy or arm strength? Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Matt Cassel, Chad Pennington won games with accuracy and decision-making not arm strength. But No. 1 overall picks with great arm strength include Drew Bledsoe, Michael Vick, and Jeff George (also JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Jay Cutler).

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Chiefs fan, in general, over value the TE position.

I think alot of the people here that say this undervalue the position, though.

No, a TE isn't going to stretch the field and make alot of gamebreaking plays. They're not going to put a good team over the top like a Moss or Welker.

But a TE, especially one with Tony G's ability, makes it nearly IMPOSSIBLE for a QB to completely implode. You can never underestimate how much a safety valve like that means to a new QB.

wild1 · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

No, he said Detroit and Tampa were, not KC. We just wanted Cassel.

oh. sorry if i got it wrong.

Chiefshrink · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

Damn Hamas! My casino cash will be lookin good at the end of April, UH? Either the Chiefs will take Curry at 3 or they will be tradin down to the Niners or whoever covets Sanchez

Don't worry fellas, we will be gettin that 2nd rd pick back, you watch!

ChiefsCountry · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

McDaniels doesnt like Cutler? What a moron.

**doomy3** · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

If that's true that Denver was interested in Cassel for Cutler like Shefter says, WOW.

Schefter is usually pretty right on with Denver news.

Ultra Peanut · 02-28-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Accuracy or arm strength? Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Matt Cassel, Chad Pennington won games with accuracy and decision-making not arm strength. But No. 1 overall picks with great arm strength include Drew Bledsoe, Michael Vick, and Jeff George (also JaMarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf, Jay Cutler).

That is reeruned, for many reasons.

**SAUTO** · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

He can take off with it, that's for sure:

at about the 45 second mark he threw a 50 yard pass in the air that was a good looking ball not a floater by any means

milkman · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Because we've been spoiled by having the best in NFL history play for us. We have seen the value a TD-machine TE can provide.

Sure, I get it.

We've just been such a juggernaught during Tony's time here.

wild1 · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

McDaniels doesnt like Cutler? What a moron.

i think he is overrated.

tomahawk kid · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'm sure there'll be some of that on KC sports radio monday.

See previous comment.

You don't get the best and brightest calling in (or hosting) Sports Talk Radio.....

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

If he makes a trade like that, it means we got raped. The #3 overall pick is worth 2200 points. The 15th is worth 1050, and the 40th is worth 500.

In order for that to be a fair trade, we would need to get the 28th overall pick in addition to the 15th and 40th.

I'm not suggesting that we throw the value chart away. It was a freaking from-the-hip hypothetical, christ.

That being said, the top of this draft is AWFUL.

eazyb81 · 02-28-2009, 02:04 PM

Michael Smith:

"I think this trade shows that Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli are REALLY good friends."

"Rumors that the compensation for Cassel may have been better from other teams."

tk13 · 02-28-2009, 02:05 PM

Yeah Kiper and company were ripping this deal up on ESPN radio. They couldn't believe that Detroit sat there and let us make this move, when they had 3 picks before the one we gave up, plus they could've thrown in late round compensation to sweeten the deal.

DaWolf · 02-28-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I don't particularly like Cassel, I think what middling success he had is largely attributable to Moss and Welker, but at least it was a second round pick. I can live with that, even if I can't say I like it. Especially if it means I don't have to see Thigpen out there playing ducks unlimited.

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that a QB, even a great one, is going to have a tough time winning if he doesn't have weapons. To me, Cassel has proven he can succeed if he is in the system the Pats run and has weapons. So it is basically Pioli's job now to make sure he gives Cassel legit weapons to succeed here...

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1827500	Yeah Kiper and company were ripping this deal up on ESPN radio. They couldn't believe that Detroit sat there and let us make this move, when they had 3 picks before the one we gave up, plus they could've thrown in late round compensation to sweeten the deal.
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