Chiefs Chiefs sign OL Goff!! - Page 16

talastan · 03-25-2009, 11:26 AM

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Chiefs sign OL Goff
The Chiefs agreed to contract terms today with veteran offensive lineman Mike Goff. Goff has some versatility and could wind up starting for the Chiefs at center or right guard.

The 33-year-old Goff played 11 NFL seasons, the first six with Cincinnati and the last five with San Diego. He has been a starter for the past nine seasons.

bdeg · 03-25-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

Sorry buddy.

If you watched Barry Richardson play. then you would know his first back step is much like Damian Macintoshs. It is slow and lumbering, as opposed to the chop step that is required when lined up against a pass rushing end. Sure he can be effective in the run, as most RT prospects are, but I will again say Barry Richardson does not have the footwork to play in the NFL. Sorry to break it too you Richardson fans.

And how hard is that to develop in a couple years, though?

**The Franchise** · 03-25-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

A former JUCO defensive end

Wow....congrats.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

And how hard is that to develop in a couple years, though?

true. I guess I wouldn't know. These guys do have the best teachers around. I was just stating as of last year, Barry didn't have the step.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Wow....congrats.

hehe, I know = (. I wasn't bragging I was just throwing my penny in the well.

bdeg · 03-25-2009, 04:40 PM

I don't think anyone here thinks he's really ready.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-25-2009, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

I don't think anyone here thinks he's really ready.

Exactly.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-25-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

A former JUCO defensive end

Well, hell!

If I had known we were in the presence of greatness, I might have bothered to put on pants.

TRR · 03-25-2009, 05:00 PM

I'm not as ready to replace Niswanger as some are on here. For his first full season at Center, I thought he did a workman-like job. I think our O Line would benefit from keeping some consistency in it.

I don't buy into the Niswanger is too tall stuff either. You can either play or you can't...and I think Niswanger brings some tools to the table. I wouldn't mind seeing him develop a little bit before drafting his replacement after only 1 season as a full time starter.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, hell!

If I had known we were in the presence of greatness, I might have bothered to put on pants.

I knew typing that was a bad idea.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-25-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I'm not as ready to replace Niswanger as some are on here. For his first full season at Center, I thought he did a workman-like job. I think our O Line would benefit from keeping some consistency in it.

I don't buy into the Niswanger is too tall stuff either. You can either play or you can't...and I think Niswanger brings some tools to the table. I wouldn't mind seeing him develop a little bit before drafting his replacement after only 1 season as a full time starter.

If "workman-like" equates to the workman-like standards of those who designed the KC Hyatt Regency and the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, then yes, Rudy did a workman-like job at center

milkman · 03-25-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

Sorry buddy.

If you watched Barry Richardson play. then you would know his first back step is much like Damian Macintoshs. It is slow and lumbering, as opposed to the chop step that is required when lined up against a pass rushing end. Sure he can be effective in the run, as most RT prospects are, but I will again say Barry Richardson does not have the footwork to play in the NFL. Sorry to break it too you Richardson fans.

What we have here is a failure to comunicate.

Yes, I know Richardson has to work on coming out of his stance and making that first step.

But he has, after that long lumbering first step, the natural quick feet that he needs to be a successful pass protector.

That first step is coachable.

Jethopper · 03-25-2009, 05:11 PM

Maybe a player coach like Goff is exactly what Niswanger needs...

wild1 · 03-25-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Cassel's gonna get killed because they're not fixing the line.

doesn't matter, he sucks anyway

milkman · 03-25-2009, 05:15 PM

Niswanger's biggest problem is that he leaves his butt to high up when he's ready to snap, and that forces him to lunge out of his stance, effectively losing any leverage.

He also needs to work on his lower body strength.

Correct those things, and he might be servicable.

However, there are a number of good centers in this draft.

If we can grab one of those guys, and let Niswanger tutor under Goff at RG, he might be more than simply servicable there.

Micjones · 03-25-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I'm not as ready to replace Niswanger as some are on here. For his first full season at Center, I thought he did a workman-like job. I think our O Line would benefit from keeping some consistency in it.

I don't buy into the Niswanger is too tall stuff either. You can either play or you can't...and I think Niswanger brings some tools to the table. I wouldn't mind seeing him develop a little bit before drafting his replacement after only 1 season as a full time starter.

People are oversimplifying the problem with his being too tall.
It's about being able to get leverage. If I'm not mistaken one of the knocks on Niswanger coming into the NFL was that he's not a natural knee-bender.

03-25-2009, 11:26 AM
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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	I don't think anyone here thinks he's really ready.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9450185	I'm not as ready to replace Niswanger as some are on here. For his first full season at Center, I thought he did a workman-like job. I think our O Line would benefit from keeping some consistency in it. I don't buy into the Niswanger is too tall stuff either. You can either play or you can't...and I think Niswanger brings some tools to the table. I wouldn't mind seeing him develop a little bit before drafting his replacement after only 1 season as a full time starter.
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Jethopper A Great Pick Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9706008	Maybe a player coach like Goff is exactly what Niswanger needs...
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Niswanger's biggest problem is that he leaves his butt to high up when he's ready to snap, and that forces him to lunge out of his stance, effectively losing any leverage. He also needs to work on his lower body strength. Correct those things, and he might be servicable. However, there are a number of good centers in this draft. If we can grab one of those guys, and let Niswanger tutor under Goff at RG, he might be more than simply servicable there. __________________
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