Chiefs Larry Johnson loses Grievance - Page 7

Frankie · 04-06-2009, 11:42 AM

Per profootballtalk.com

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...teed-salaries/

Larry Johnson Loses Grievance On Future Guaranteed Salaries
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2009, 1:11 p.m. EDT

The good news for NFL players coming out of last week’s combined Plaxico Burress/Larry Johnson grievance is that the forfeiture of signing bonus money has been significantly limited.

The bad news for NFL players is that Special Master Richard Burbank upheld player contract language invalidating future guaranteed base salaries.

Per a league source, Johnson’s grievance failed as to the question of whether the Chiefs are permitted to erase $3.5 million in guaranteed base salary due in 2009 and $250,000 in guaranteed base salary due in 2010 based on Johnson’s one-game suspension in 2008 for violation of the personal conduct policy.

With the future guaranteed payments now off the books, the Chiefs are expected to cut or trade Johnson.

Meanwhile, we’re told that Johnson’s grievance prevailed as to the partial forfeiture of his signing bonus allocation applicable to 2008, for the same reasons that the Burress grievance prevailed on that point — according to Burbank, suspensions don’t trigger a forfeiture of signing bonus money.

(Sorry if repost.)

Chiefaholic · 04-06-2009, 03:29 PM

I can't believe the number of people that think LJ has virtually no trade value. I'de guess these are the same people that said Tynes, Sims, Hall, and Green have no value a few years ago as well. If the franchise doesn't get a 3rd AT LEAST I'de be suprised.

Wa-Z · 04-06-2009, 03:31 PM

Funny..my buddy waited on him last night...LJ left $10 on $85..

Mecca · 04-06-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

I can't believe the number of people that think LJ has virtually no trade value. I'de guess these are the same people that said Tynes, Sims, Hall, and Green have no value a few years ago as well. If the franchise doesn't get a 3rd AT LEAST I'de be suprised.

Explain to me what team is going to trade for an aging attitude problem running back when they can just draft one who's younger and cheaper without the attitude..

RB is a dime a dozen position.

orange · 04-06-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Funny..my buddy waited on him last night...LJ left $10 on $85..

A bad tipper, too. Cut his ass.

Chiefaholic · 04-06-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Explain to me what team is going to trade for an aging attitude problem running back when they can just draft one who's younger and cheaper without the attitude..

RB is a dime a dozen position.

Tell that to Chief fans prior to Priest Holmes. Dime a dozen my ass....

crazycoffey · 04-06-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Funny..my buddy waited on him last night...LJ left $10 on $85..

I've spent alot of time in that industry, LJ would be readily ignored from then on, if I had waited on him. I'd go spend my time on the regulars that always give a good healthy 20-25%

must be because he lost the grievance???

Archie Bunker · 04-06-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

I can't believe the number of people that think LJ has virtually no trade value. I'de guess these are the same people that said Tynes, Sims, Hall, and Green have no value a few years ago as well. If the franchise doesn't get a 3rd AT LEAST I'de be suprised.

Considering the market over the years for Edge, Alexander, etc I think you're going to be suprised.

chiefs1111 · 04-06-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Explain to me what team is going to trade for an aging attitude problem running back when they can just draft one who's younger and cheaper without the attitude..

RB is a dime a dozen position.

Exactly. I think the Chiefs would be lucky to get a 4th round pick for him. I really don't think we could get anything higher than a 5th though if we did move him.

Mecca · 04-06-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic

Tell that to Chief fans prior to Priest Holmes. Dime a dozen my ass....

I'll tell them it everytime if you can't find a RB your organization is completely ****ing inept.

And things have changed over say the past 10 years, finding a RB is easy now.

Hootie · 04-06-2009, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Funny..my buddy waited on him last night...LJ left $10 on $85..

Ok that's not good by any means but it's not the worst tip in the world...

Technically, you don't tip on tax so that really works out to around 15%...

and maybe the service wasn't great?

Lots of factors could be in play...but that's not a tip I'd bitch about.

Hootie · 04-06-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

A bad tipper, too. Cut his ass.

Meh.

You'd think he drop a $100 regardless, but maybe the service was shit?

If I get $10 on something less than $100 from any black person, I'm content...I don't care if that sounds racist...it is what it is.

Hootie · 04-06-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey

I've spent alot of time in that industry, LJ would be readily ignored from then on, if I had waited on him. I'd go spend my time on the regulars that always give a good healthy 20-25%

must be because he lost the grievance???

Man, this is total bullshit.

I work in that industry and that's not even that bad...if you're expecting 25% tips from anyone and ignore people who tip less, you're an idiot.

Of course I give the same service to the people who don't tip at all...a lot of people who don't tip properly just don't know, they aren't doing it to be dicks...as long as the people are nice people, I don't give a shit...a lot of people need that $10 a whole lot more than me...

and $10 on $85 (and I assume the $85 is after tax) is pretty standard...because technically the 15% is on the subtotal...

A lot of people double the tax and that's how they leave their tip...

orange · 04-06-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Meh.

You'd think he drop a $100 regardless, but maybe the service was shit?

He needed five $1's back to tip the dancer.

Hootie · 04-06-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

He needed five $1's back to tip the dancer.

Touche.

Wa-Z · 04-06-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

Ok that's not good by any means but it's not the worst tip in the world...

Technically, you don't tip on tax so that really works out to around 15%...

and maybe the service wasn't great?

Lots of factors could be in play...but that's not a tip I'd bitch about.

Considering he's a multi-millionaire that's a terrible tip...and taxes were probably around $6 making the net total around $79 and 15% of that would be around $12..service is not in question...Sullivans Steak House

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Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Larry Johnson loses Grievance Per profootballtalk.com http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...teed-salaries/ Larry Johnson Loses Grievance On Future Guaranteed Salaries Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2009, 1:11 p.m. EDT The good news for NFL players coming out of last week’s combined Plaxico Burress/Larry Johnson grievance is that the forfeiture of signing bonus money has been significantly limited. The bad news for NFL players is that Special Master Richard Burbank upheld player contract language invalidating future guaranteed base salaries. Per a league source, Johnson’s grievance failed as to the question of whether the Chiefs are permitted to erase $3.5 million in guaranteed base salary due in 2009 and $250,000 in guaranteed base salary due in 2010 based on Johnson’s one-game suspension in 2008 for violation of the personal conduct policy. With the future guaranteed payments now off the books, the Chiefs are expected to cut or trade Johnson. Meanwhile, we’re told that Johnson’s grievance prevailed as to the partial forfeiture of his signing bonus allocation applicable to 2008, for the same reasons that the Burress grievance prevailed on that point — according to Burbank, suspensions don’t trigger a forfeiture of signing bonus money. (Sorry if repost.)
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