Chiefs Cassel or Sanchez? - Page 20

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 06:45 PM

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

Hammock Parties · 04-12-2009, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Yes. It all makes perfect sense now. Am I allowed to make eye contact?

(the end)

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-12-2009, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

(the end)

Hammock Parties · 04-12-2009, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

This is what Cassel does to blitzing linebackers.

keg in kc · 04-12-2009, 02:43 AM

Hey, wow, I've never seen this thread before.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

(the end)

Awesome!

Most bull$#it to face to find a punchline since Dennis Miller did MNF.

On top of that $#it salad it's even LESS entertaining! BRAVO!

*FLOWERS AND ARSE TULIPS GA-LORE!1!*

Hammock Parties · 04-12-2009, 03:40 AM

If it made DCS post a smiley, my work here is done.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

If it made DCS post a smiley, my work here is done.

I haven't been around much lately. I missed the big event.

Should I send flowers or a card?...

CrazyHorse · 04-12-2009, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

And again, there's a distinct difference between rushing the passer every once in a while to having it being one of your main responsibilities. Curry rushed the passer purely as an element of surprise. In a 3-4, he'd essentially be your main source of pressure--the defensive line (2 DEs and NT) are responsible for engaging blockers, not rushing the passer. Again, you're saying that Curry will be a very good pass rusher because he did so on occasion in college is like saying that Noshawn Moreno will be an outstanding #1 WR because he caught passes well on occasion. Curry can rush the passer, but it is not considered one of his strengths. And he doesn't have NEARLY the experience as, say, Aaron Maybin or Everett Brown. And that's important because like I said, rushing the passer and shedding blocks in the trenches is far more important than playing more traditional OLB roles like pass coverage.

As for whether we run a 3-4 exclusively, unless you think the Chiefs will build a defense with personnel from 2 defenses, then you can believe that the Chiefs will run a hybrid D forever. They are only running a hybrid because they can't turn a 4-3 into a 3-4 overnight. It's hard enough to build one defense, let alone 2.

And again........ show me why you think Curry cant get into the backfield.

You keep pounding your fist against the post on the same arguement while ignoring the fact that Curry was able to make plays in the backfield in the capacity he was asked. And assume that he wont be able to get in the backfield if asked to do it in another capacity. Why?

The fact is, when asked to do it......he did it.

Now, let's say he cant do it for the sake of your arguement. Then I would still take him as an inside LB. Why? because he's the best player on the board and we need one.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyHorse

And again........ show me why you think Curry cant get into the backfield.

You keep pounding your fist against the post on the same arguement while ignoring the fact that Curry was able to make plays in the backfield in the capacity he was asked. And assume that he wont be able to get in the backfield if asked to do it in another capacity. Why?

Mostly due to the fact he's overvalued.

He'd be Derrick Johnson in any other draft, likely a top 20 prospect.

I think he could be a dominant pass rusher. THat's not the favored view, but I think he could be.

Still, he's not a top 10 pick. End of story. I wouldn't pay him top 10 money.

And if I wouldn't you can bet your ass Pioli won't...

keg in kc · 04-12-2009, 05:24 AM

I'll be so glad when the ****ing draft is finally over.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'll be so glad when the ****ing draft is finally over.

I'm sweating it. I'm moving the week before.

My worst nightmare is some miracle trade/trade down I don't get to see because I don't have all my $#it in order yet...

keg in kc · 04-12-2009, 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think he could be a dominant pass rusher. THat's not the favored view, but I think he could be.

Still, he's not a top 10 pick. End of story. I wouldn't pay him top 10 money.

And if I wouldn't you can bet your ass Pioli won't...

That's the thing, even if he could be a dominant pass rusher, he just isn't, not right now. And you don't spend a top-5 pick on a player because you hope and pray he might be able to do something he's never done before. Project picks come in the 2nd half of the round, or later.

If you want to spend the #3 pick of the draft on an ILB, fine. That's one thing. But if you're trying to use the "I think he can rush the passer, even though he's never done it, and, hey, even if he busts we can still play him inside" argument, that just doesn't work. Not that high.

Want to promote Curry, great. Just stick to his coverage skills and his physical play, without going into the purely subjective fantasy realm of whether or not he can russ the pasher. If he's not worth #3 based on what you already know he can do, then he's not worth it at all.

(This isn't directly aimed at you caudle, I just quoted you and then went on a tangent...)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm sweating it. I'm moving the week before.

My worst nightmare is some miracle trade/trade down I don't get to see because I don't have all my $#it in order yet...

Now that would suck.

I'll be working that day I'm sure.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Now that would suck.

I'll be working that day I'm sure.

The move is getting at me. I'll be right outside Sacramento and I'd guess in the Faiders blackout area.

I haven't missed a game since 94.

Haven't missed a draft since 98...

keg in kc · 04-12-2009, 05:42 AM

Time for NFL Network and NFL Sunday Ticket.

**Rausch** · 04-12-2009, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Time for NFL Network and NFL Sunday Ticket.

Hav-...had both.

I have this sneaking suspicion that Kalifornia might be more expensive. I'm taking the "wait and see" approach...

04-11-2009, 06:45 PM
KCBOSS1 RAISE EM RIGHT Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Arkansas Casino cash: $10005366	Cassel or Sanchez? I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?
Posts: 1,927

04-12-2009, 02:43 AM	#289
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Hey, wow, I've never seen this thread before.
Posts: 58,682

04-12-2009, 03:40 AM	#291
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1020478	If it made DCS post a smiley, my work here is done. __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 296,742

04-12-2009, 05:24 AM	#295
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I'll be so glad when the ****ing draft is finally over.
Posts: 58,682

04-12-2009, 05:42 AM	#299
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Time for NFL Network and NFL Sunday Ticket.
Posts: 58,682