Draft Predictions for Chiefs - Page 3

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 04-24-2009, 07:38 PM

There won't be any deals to get out of this pick. We're stuck with it.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-24-2009, 08:53 PM

It has to be Aaron Curry.

I'm not convinced that Derrick Johnson can't play outside linebacker in a Lamar Woodley type role. DJ was our most effective blitzer off the edge, and didn't do a bad job with his hand on the ground the last 2 years.

Vrabel, Curry, Thomas, DJ wouldn't be too terrible.

BigChiefFan · 04-24-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It has to be Aaron Curry.

I'm not convinced that Derrick Johnson can't play outside linebacker in a Lamar Woodley type role. DJ was our most effective blitzer off the edge, and didn't do a bad job with his hand on the ground the last 2 years.

Vrabel, Curry, Thomas, DJ wouldn't be too terrible.

The D-line would still be dogshit. I like Aaron Curry, but I just can't see us giving that kind of money to a LBer. Top 10, yes? Top 3, not in my book. The position doesn't justify the price tag, IMO.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-24-2009, 09:31 PM

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The D-line would still be dogshit. I like Aaron Curry, but I just can't see us giving that kind of money to a LBer. Top 10, yes? Top 3, not in my book. The position doesn't justify the price tag, IMO.

Get over the pricetag shit.

It's not the draft to get a pass rusher at 3, and if you think paying an inside linebacker huge money is bad, then so is paying a right tackle. Raji has way too many red flags for me to consider that not a huge risk at 3. I'll take the safe linebacker over the red flagged DT any day of the week.

The D-line can be built over the year and they can slowly transition into a 3-4. Start DJ, Thomas and Curry at linebacker in the 4-3 and bring in Vrabel on passing downs.

You aren't fixing this defense in a year.

htismaqe · 04-24-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Get over the pricetag shit.

It's not the draft to get a pass rusher at 3, and if you think paying an inside linebacker huge money is bad, then so is paying a right tackle. Raji has way too many red flags for me to consider that not a huge risk at 3. I'll take the safe linebacker over the red flagged DT any day of the week.

The D-line can be built over the year and they can slowly transition into a 3-4. Start DJ, Thomas and Curry at linebacker in the 4-3 and bring in Vrabel on passing downs.

You aren't fixing this defense in a year.

Honestly, if they really want to give the money to a position that commands it, they need to take Crabtree.

**HemiEd** · 04-24-2009, 10:14 PM

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Honestly, if they really want to give the money to a position that commands it, they need to take Crabtree.

You have convinced me Parker, if you think he is good enough, lets get him.

There have been a lot of people saying he benifited from the system, but I wouldn't know.

But I have a feeling they are going to take one of the top OTs.

BigChiefFan · 04-24-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Get over the pricetag shit.

It's not the draft to get a pass rusher at 3, and if you think paying an inside linebacker huge money is bad, then so is paying a right tackle. Raji has way too many red flags for me to consider that not a huge risk at 3. I'll take the safe linebacker over the red flagged DT any day of the week.

The D-line can be built over the year and they can slowly transition into a 3-4. Start DJ, Thomas and Curry at linebacker in the 4-3 and bring in Vrabel on passing downs.

You aren't fixing this defense in a year.

I agree, we aren't fixing the D, in one year, but I believe a NT is the most important piece of the 3-4defensive puzzle and should be priority one. Add to that, Raji is certainly considered a top 5 pick, so the value is there. Not to mention a top NT is justifiable to pay big money to, a run-stopping LBer isn't.

I just can't see us ignoring the most important piece of a 3-4 to some-what solidify our LBers, when this draft is DEEP for LBers and NOT FOR NTs, especially without a 2nd round pick. To me it's all about the value and the drop-off after that player is selected. If we lose Curry, there's several more choices, the same cannot be said for NT in this draft.

htismaqe · 04-25-2009, 06:09 AM

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I agree, we aren't fixing the D, in one year, but I believe a NT is the most important piece of the 3-4defensive puzzle and should be priority one. Add to that, Raji is certainly considered a top 5 pick, so the value is there. Not to mention a top NT is justifiable to pay big money to, a run-stopping LBer isn't.

I just can't see us ignoring the most important piece of a 3-4 to some-what solidify our LBers, when this draft is DEEP for LBers and NOT FOR NTs, especially without a 2nd round pick. To me it's all about the value and the drop-off after that player is selected. If we lose Curry, there's several more choices, the same cannot be said for NT in this draft.

None of the best NT's in the game were Top 5 picks. I'm pretty sure none of them were Top 10 picks.

And I think there's a good chance Ron Brace ends up being a better 3-4 NT than Raji.

Messier · 04-24-2009, 09:19 PM

I think its looking more and more like we're taking Jackson. It always seems that when people start to agree on the pick in the last 24 hours, that's who it turns out to be. My only problem is that Jackson could be taken 5 or 6 picks later. But if there is no trade, I think it's Jackson.

BigChiefFan · 04-24-2009, 09:22 PM

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I think its looking more and more like we're taking Jackson. It always seems that when people start to agree on the pick in the last 24 hours, that's who it turns out to be. My only problem is that Jackson could be taken 5 or 6 picks later. But if there is no trade, I think it's Jackson.

Damn, I hope not. He basically compares to Vonnie Holliday.

Messier · 04-24-2009, 09:27 PM

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Damn, I hope not. He basically compares to Vonnie Holliday.

DE's in the 3-4 are kind of unsung. They don't get alot of sacks or even tackles, they just occupy the Tackle so that the LB's can get through. It's not a position I would consider in the top five.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-24-2009, 09:58 PM

I don't consider Raji a top 5 talent. To me, he screams Ryan Sims when he was no stud before last season.

booger · 04-24-2009, 10:46 PM

I don't doubt they have strong interest in Jackson, just not at 3. They might be taking a chance that CLE would move up 2 spots if they think the browns are all gaga over him. That's the only thing I can think of as far as the leak would go. Maybe GB who is moving to the 34 with Dom Capers as the new DC. But I agree with those who say anything leaked by Pioli would be only the intention of a smokescreen.

ArrowheadMagic · 04-25-2009, 02:20 AM

CP bitching about the pick.........

Mecca · 04-25-2009, 11:22 AM

He's a different kind of prospect. Ngata wasn't a fit for every team because of how mammoth he is.

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