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Old 05-04-2009, 02:10 PM  
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Number 9 gets his Motor City Groove On.

To know you've just landed one of the potential greats of all time; must feel nice.
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(note Gunther's snazzy new duds)

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Old 05-05-2009, 05:55 PM   #61
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it wasnt that they never made any calls, he said that at the end no one was calling us and we werent calling them. maybe he heard the offers and didnt think they were worth losing out on the guy they wanted?
He says "No, we weren't making any calls either. We felt good.."

IF he did hear other offers and decided he didn't like them then so be it, however that's not what he said.
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:58 PM   #62
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He says "No, we weren't making any calls either. We felt good.."

IF he did hear other offers and decided he didn't like them then so be it, however that's not what he said.
he also said "at the end" correct?
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:01 PM   #63
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We reportedly tried to trade with the Detroit Lions at the #20 spot and they refused. It's quite simple, nobody wanted our pick when they knew they could Sanchez at #5.
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pioli said straight out that they never tried to trade.
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"You need a partner to trade with".

"There were no partners".
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Not exactly.

PIOLI: “We didn’t receive any calls on trades once we got down near the end.
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Immediately after that:
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A: "No, we weren't making any calls either. We felt good..."
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He says "No, we weren't making any calls either. We felt good.."

IF he did hear other offers and decided he didn't like them then so be it, however that's not what he said.
see i take that exchange as being : at the end we received no calls and made no calls. he was referencing the last minute dealings
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:20 PM   #64
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he also said "at the end" correct?
He didn't say at the end IIRC. But the Browns did end up trading 2 spots later
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:47 PM   #65
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He didn't say at the end IIRC. But the Browns did end up trading 2 spots later
the browns took a terrible deal, but pioli said they werent getting any calls at the end then immediately after(your words) said they werent making any either
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:03 PM   #66
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I think this exchange from the now-Legendary "Mother**** You Scott Pioli"-thread pretty much sums it up:

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If we hadn't traded for Cassel, Sanchez would have been taken at 2, and someone would have given the Rams a great offer to trade down. If it was us, we would have at least lost our #2....

In retrospect, I really think trading for Cassel was the best option available to us since we were sitting at 3.

Sucks, yes, but that's the way things are I guess.
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Never say never, but I have a hard time believing the Rams would have had the balls to make a move. They wanted their boy, just like Detroit, and did what everyone thought they would.
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They were trying to trade out of 2 on draft day. Nobody wanted to be in the top 5, the only team that was willing to take it up the ol poop shute was the Brownies to get out of there.

Think about it, if we didn't have Cassel who would we have been picking? Would the NFL believe that Pioli was going to hitch his wagon to Tyler Thigpen?

The whole world would have known we were taking Sanchez at 3, so anyone that wanted him would have been talking to the Rams. That would have to be us as well, as we would have known that we were screwed.

I wanted Sanchez bad, but seeing the play that he got, and watching the Jets trade up from 17 told me all I needed to know. Drafting @3 Pioli made the best move he could, which was trading our 2 for Cassel.

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Yeah, I can see that. Too bad we got screwed on landing at #2 overall; it could have been a whole different day. Though in retrospect, I think we were getting Cassel come hell or high water whether sitting at 2 OR 3.
Had he not had the year he had in NE, and been available due to cap space in the name of Brady, we probably wouldn't have landed Pioli because he wouldn't have left.
Pioli's a smart guy; I don't question that. But I also feel he is a very conservative guy as well, for better or worse.


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Old 05-05-2009, 08:51 PM   #67
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pioli said straight out that they never tried to trade.
He was talking about while we were on the clock during the #3 pick.

We reportedly talked to the Lions days before the draft and they wanted no part of the #3 pick.

Like it or not, the leverage was at #2, not #3. We had no shot at trading down - our only hope was to call everybody's bluff and take Sanchez. They decided to stick to their board instead and I'm fine with that.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:53 PM   #68
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I agree with you if there were no trade partners than take the guy you want and be done with it. However he states he never made ANY CALLS.

Add to that 2 spots later a trade WAS done and I'm gonna have to go with option B.
You have to put those comments in CONTEXT.

He was talking about getting and making calls WHILE WE WERE ON THE CLOCK.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:01 PM   #69
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He was talking about while we were on the clock during the #3 pick.

We reportedly talked to the Lions days before the draft and they wanted no part of the #3 pick.

Like it or not, the leverage was at #2, not #3. We had no shot at trading down - our only hope was to call everybody's bluff and take Sanchez. They decided to stick to their board instead and I'm fine with that.
Agreed. The best part is( hopefully ), no more D-line in the first round for a while.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:11 PM   #70
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you know what they say about potential, right?

****. I've got the POTENTIAL to be a billionaire. shit ain't happening any time soon.

The best all time story about potential and reality;

little boy goes to dad to ask the difference, dad says he has the best answer. Tells him to go ask his mom if she'd sleep with Robert Redford for a million dollars. He does and the mom says "yes, of course". The boy reports to his dad what his mom said, and the dad says to go ask his sister if she'd sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars. He does and the sister says "yes, of course". He reports back to his dad again and the dad says, "there you go, that's the difference between potentially and reality."

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Old 05-05-2009, 10:13 PM   #71
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The best all time story about potential and reality;

little boy goes to dad to ask the difference, dad says he has the best answer. Tells him to go ask his mom if she'd sleep with Robert Redford for a million dollars. He does and the mom says "yes, of course". The boy reports to his dad what his mom said, and the dad says to go ask his sister if she'd sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars. He does and the sister says "yes, of course". He reports back to his dad again and the dad says, "there you go, that's the difference between potentially and reality."

Son;
Potentially, we're millionaires, but in reality we live with two whores.....
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:27 PM   #72
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You have to put those comments in CONTEXT.

He was talking about getting and making calls WHILE WE WERE ON THE CLOCK.
Why wouldn't he make one frickin phone call while he was on the clock? I watched the Patriots draft room vid and BB was wheelin and dealin like a used car salesman on meth.

What did Pioli do for 15 minutes? Twiddle his thumbs and pray that somebody would call him and offer them a kings ransom? Thank his lucky stars that he got Jackson at 3?

BS. I guarantee he worked the ****ing phones like a goddamn madman and tried to swindle somebody, and when it didnt happen he acted all cool about it and just said 'What. We got the guy we wanted all along'.

Riiiighhhht.
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Why wouldn't he make one frickin phone call while he was on the clock? I watched the Patriots draft room vid and BB was wheelin and dealin like a used car salesman on meth.

What did Pioli do for 15 minutes? Twiddle his thumbs and pray that somebody would call him and offer them a kings ransom? Thank his lucky stars that he got Jackson at 3?

BS. I guarantee he worked the ****ing phones like a goddamn madman and tried to swindle somebody, and when it didnt happen he acted all cool about it and just said 'What. We got the guy we wanted all along'.

Riiiighhhht.
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