Chiefs ranked 15th best QB corp. Guess who's 32nd?

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The Raiders, Browns, Jaguars, Redskins, Vikings (without Favre), Lions, Jets, Bucs, and 49ers are all in worse shape than the Broncos.

Kyle Orton is for real.

Do you analyze your thought process? Ever? And you find no homerism in this?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by SNR

Do you analyze your thought process? Ever? And you find no homerism in this?

I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

Orton is way worse than Cassel.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Orton is way worse than Cassel.

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

Forte would.

And NE's O-line was terrible last year. They allowed 47 sacks and got Tom Brady on the IR.

And yeah Randy and Wes helped Cassel, but the majority of his throws were throws that any decent WR should catch. He didnt really take advantage of Moss's height and jumping ability. He made throws that would have worked had he had the Chiefs WRs, Raiders WRs, and even the Raiders WRs.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Forte would.

And NE's O-line was terrible last year. They allowed 47 sacks and got Tom Brady on the IR.

And yeah Randy and Wes helped Cassel, but the majority of his throws were throws that any decent WR should catch. He didnt really take advantage of Moss's height and jumping ability. He made throws that would have worked had he had the Chiefs WRs, Raiders WRs, and even the Raiders WRs.

You might want to check this out, in regards to Cassel... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5755411 and http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...as-City-Chiefs

I doubt Forte would start over Knowshon. Forte averaged less than 4 yards per carry last year.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

You might want to check this out, in regards to Cassel... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5755411 and http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...as-City-Chiefs

I doubt Forte would start over Knowshon. Forte averaged less than 4 yards per carry last year.

Forte had the 3rd most yards from scrimmage. The only 2 above him were Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner (barely).

Glad you're on top of things.

[Smed1065]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

LOL

[JohnnyV13]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

LJ Bowe Brian Waters and Branden Albert would start for Denver.

So would Matt Cassel. Which is the whole reason McDaniels tried to acquire him.

Albert would not likely be LT, but he'd probably at least start at RT or guard. Waters is a 4 time pro bowl guard. Bowe would start over Eddie Royal and his 10.8 yards per catch.

LJ is a proven workhorse back, he'd start over a rookie.

[dj56dt58]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We will see how Cassel does without Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Ben Watson, that offensive line, and Josh McDaniels.

Nobody on the Chiefs offense would start on the Patriots. I'm not knocking the Chiefs, its just that the Patriots are loaded.

Besides Cutler, there is nobody on Chicago's offense that would start for Denver.

Bowe, Albert, Waters, and LJ would all start for NE.

And you mention McDaniels over Belicheck?

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Bowe, Albert, Waters, and LJ would all start for NE.

And you mention McDaniels over Belicheck?

Bowe wouldn't start over Welker, he might be on the outside when they run 3 WR sets, but Welker would be the No. 2 when they go with 2 WR's. Albert and Waters might... But it's not like NE's offensive line sucks or anything. LJ isn't that much better than Fred Taylor is now.

Belicheat is a defensive minded coach. McDaniels had more to do with Cassel's success than Belicheat did, he was the QB coach before he became the offensive coordinator.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Bowe wouldn't start over Welker, he might be on the outside when they run 3 WR sets, but Welker would be the No. 2 when they go with 2 WR's. Albert and Waters might... But it's not like NE's offensive line sucks or anything. LJ isn't that much better than Fred Taylor is now.

Belicheat is a defensive minded coach. McDaniels had more to do with Cassel's success than Belicheat did, he was the QB coach before he became the offensive coordinator.

This whole post is dumb as hell!!!

just dont post again till you get smarter...please...your dumb hurts civilization

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Bowe wouldn't start over Welker, he might be on the outside when they run 3 WR sets, but Welker would be the No. 2 when they go with 2 WR's. Albert and Waters might... But it's not like NE's offensive line sucks or anything. LJ isn't that much better than Fred Taylor is now.

Belicheat is a defensive minded coach. McDaniels had more to do with Cassel's success than Belicheat did, he was the QB coach before he became the offensive coordinator.

You shouldn't comment about stuff you know nothing about. Welker isn't a #2 receiver. He's a slot receiver. His bread-and-butter is getting underneath the coverages or taking a short outside hitch route and stretching it for a lot of YAC. He would NOT compete with Dwayne Bowe, who is more of a traditional #2 WR. Bowe would compete with Jabar Gaffney, and he would easily win that job.

As for your second comment, you are proving your idiocy every day by first discrediting Tom Brady and then discrediting Bill Bellichick. I hate them both, but they are the best QB and coach in the game... period. And even your own fellow Broncos fans will call you out for being an idiot on that point. It occurs to me that Charlie Weis received a ton of credit for tutoring Tom Brady. Then he goes to Notre Dame, and suddenly, he has no idea how to run an offense. Isn't it interesting that three of Bellichick's coaches have gone on to another team and failed (Weis, Mangini, Crennel). Tells you a lot about how good Bellichick is, doesn't it.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I think Kyle Orton is no worse than Matt Cassel. He is better than Jamarcus Russell, Alex Smith, Shaun Hill, Brady Quinn, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Josh Freeman, Daunte Culpepper, Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens,Jason Campbell, and Sage Rosenfells.

I think after this season he will be considered one of the 10-15 best QB's in the league.

Quit while you're ahead.

Brady, Palmer, Peyton, Brees, Warner
Hasselbeck, Rivers, Roethlisberger, McNabb, Matt Ryan
Eli, Rodgers, Pennington, Cutler, Romo

He's not top 15 nor will he be by season's end. But it will be fun to hear you feebly argue who he's better than on that list.

I will grant you that the Broncos aren't the worst. I think Tampa wins that easily.