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Old 06-27-2009, 06:47 PM   #1
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All I said was Knowshon will average at least 5.0 YPC this season. Then one of your Chiefs fans said I was crazy. Orton didn't have anyone to throw the ball to last year. Devin Hester was his number 1 receiver and he is a converted CB. Hester would be a 4th or 5th string WR here. Knowshon can do everything Forte can do and was a better back coming out of college than Forte. Knowshon is the most complete RB to come out since LT.
I wouldnt be surprised if he averaged 5/carry, hes a solid back and Denvers line is a good one. But I doubt very highly he is anywhere near a league leader in the Perkins-Ernhart spread system Josh is installing.

His ability to block blitzing linebackers and to sell fakes and recieve dump offs and turn them into big gains will dictate his success in the offense alot more than his consistant ability to run between the tackles as Forte did. If he misses a couple key blocks on a player like Shawne Merriman or Derrick Burgess, or any of the other premier pass rushers he will have to help the team block, you will be posting some homer shit that you are better off with Simms anyway.

Hester was never really a cb atMiami, he played many positions including wr. He never had a home position and thats the biggest reason he slipped a bit in the draft.

I look for a couple wrs in chicago to "come out of nowhere" now that they have a real nfl qb throwing the ball. Similar to when Brees first went to NO.

Good qbs make recieving corps better. They take 4th rounders and make them weapons. Cutler was one of those, Orton isnt.

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Old 06-27-2009, 06:53 PM   #2
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Part time players at RB averaging 5+ yards a carry isn't all that unusual.

You realize that Terrell Davis only averaged 5+ yards in only one season, and that Jim Brown is the only RB in NFL history to average over 5 yards a carry for the course of his career.
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I wouldnt be surprised if he averaged 5/carry, hes a solid back and Denvers line is a good one. But I doubt very highly he is anywhere near a league leader in the Perkins-Ernhart spread system Josh is installing.
Moreno is a versatile back with outstanding quickness and elusiveness, and he gives the Broncos another weapon in the passing game with his exceptional hands and underrated route-running. With Josh McDaniels' preference for spread formations, Moreno could emerge as a playmaker in his first season.

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His ability to block blitzing linebackers and to sell fakes and recieve dump offs and turn them into big gains will dictate his success in the offense alot more than his consistant ability to run between the tackles as Forte did. If he misses a couple key blocks on a player like Shawne "roidman" Merriman or Derrick Burgess, or any of the other premier pass rushers he will have to help the team block, you will be posting some homer shit that you are better off with Simms anyway.
Positives: Tight-skinned athlete with good overall musculature. Good quickness to the hole. Reads the defense and anticipates where the hole, including cutback lanes, will appear. Exceptional lateral quickness and elusiveness in tight quarters. Very rarely tackled by the first defender. Good acceleration past the initial wave of defense and into the secondary. Good spin and stiff arm, and has phenomenal leaping ability to jump over tacklers. Attacks the line of scrimmage and is a tougher interior runner than given credit for. Can drop his shoulders and has good leg drive. Runs through a lot of tackles due to his competitive drive and toughness. Keeps his legs churning and will spin away from tackles. Soft hands for the reception. Natural receiver who poses intriguing possibilities to be split out wide. Good quickness and effort as a route-runner; isn't just a threat on dump-offs in the flat or screens. Provides a pop in pass protection. Extreme competitor who can put the team on his shoulders. Wants the ball with the game on the line.

Negatives: Questionable top-end speed. Lacks the prototype size and bulk some teams are looking for in a bell-cow runner.


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