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**Fire Me Boy!** · 05-09-2009, 10:40 AM

Thinking about getting my first bike... looking fairly cheap, not into speed-demon type stuff.

Just some advice about a 1993 Kawasaki Vulcan (left) or a '78 Goldwing (right).

**Lzen** · 07-13-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Yea, Mr. Pr_Capone did kind of butcher that one.
What he means is that the average car can brake, not break, down to a stop from any given speed in a shorter distance than the average motorcycle. And he is correct, because they have more contact patches, tires, to transmit the braking forces to the ground.

OK. But what about the extra force created by the larger mass? Not questioning your knowledge. Just clarifying. I know the driver manual says that a bike takes the same time to stop. Not more. Not less.

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

OK. But what about the extra force created by the larger mass? Not questioning your knowledge. Just clarifying. I know the driver manual says that a bike takes the same time to stop. Not more. Not less.

Its not a matter of more or less mass nor is it an issue of how fast either can stop... it's a matter of panicking and hitting the brakes too hard which will cause the rider to more than likely eat some gravel.

In a car you can stomp on the brakes and you don't have to worry about the car tipping over, high centering, or even having the back end come around on you (for the most part). On a motorcycle its extremely easy to do any of those things which is why it is important for the rider to be able to accelerate past an obstacle as opposed to braking.

wild1 · 07-13-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

OK. But what about the extra force created by the larger mass? Not questioning your knowledge. Just clarifying. I know the driver manual says that a bike takes the same time to stop. Not more. Not less.

they are all different. some bikes still have drum brakes in the rear. some only have single discs in the front. there are even a few people riding choppers with no front brake because it obscures the aesthetics by hiding the rim. my daily on the other hand will stop faster than you ever want to stop.

but the argument that you might skid or you might endover, IMO, is spurious. you shouldn't avoid braking because you might brake improperly, you should learn to brake properly.

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

they are all different. some bikes still have drum brakes in the rear. some only have single discs in the front. there are even a few people riding choppers with no front brake because it obscures the aesthetics by hiding the rim. my daily on the other hand will stop faster than you ever want to stop.

but the argument that you might skid or you might endover, IMO, is spurious. you shouldn't avoid braking because you might brake improperly, you should learn to brake properly.

I never said that you should avoid breaking. If I had not learned the value of proper breaking I would probably have not have managed to live through the first 2 years of riding.

I am saying that having enough power to accelerate out of a bad position is extremely valuable and is not something I would ever again do without.

wild1 · 07-13-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

having enough power to accelerate out of a bad position is extremely valuable and is not something I would ever again do without.

So you sold the Harley?

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

So you sold the Harley?

Bastard.

lol

My Sporty will out run 90% of all stock cruisers (light to light). I've yet to take it out on a track though it is something I might be doing in the next few months.

andoman · 07-13-2009, 07:38 PM

I've been watching Rebels on eBay for a couple of weeks now. Saw a 2004 with over 40K go for $900, saw a 2008 with less than 1K go for just over $2,000 (probably should have jumped on that one, but I'm not quite ready to buy yet). Yesterday I came across these two for sale at a nearby gas station. a 1987 and 2004, both with under 20K miles, $1,500/each.

andoman · 07-13-2009, 07:43 PM

Twenty minutes left on this auction (Reserve not met)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...NA%3AUS%3A1123

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

Not to be a dick but you should be able to get a sportster for $3500. Over that is asking more than blue book and every asshole thinks their bike is worth 10 grand. Sorry, I shop bike's all the time. Brother in law just sold is 750 Virago for $1200. Bought a wrecked Shadow for $800, I welded the gas tank and now it's going to paint. Should be worth around $3500 when done.

What the hell are you on about?

A. I'm not selling my sporty
B. Can you get a 1957 Sporty for $3500? How about a 2004? If so, let me know where so I can stock up.

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

I typed out a reply and apparently I took to long. If you want to get in a pissing contest we can take this offline.

What the **** are you talking about?

What pissing match?

Have I insulted you because I said that my bike is faster light to light than most cruisers?

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz

Huh? you called me out? and I thought I was drunk....

When did I call you out? I didn't call you out. LOL

Why are you pissed?

LMFAO

wild1 · 07-13-2009, 09:44 PM

I don't understand "you can get a sportster for 3500" is like saying "you can get a ford pickup for 3500". well what year? what condition?

wild1 · 07-13-2009, 09:44 PM

Nevermind. You guys are drunk.

**pr_capone** · 07-13-2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

Nevermind. You guys are drunk.

I'm not drunk... just confused.

Shit.. if he has a line on a 57 for 3500 I'm all about it!

**Fire Me Boy!** · 07-14-2009, 08:38 AM

Budget just got tighter... found out the wife isn't likely headed to basic until February.

Found a 2002 Honda Rebel, 1488 miles (woman rider), selling for $1600 on CL. Should be able to get less than that.

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07-13-2009, 07:38 PM	#97
andoman You're not too far between Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midland, GA Casino cash: $8396464	I've been watching Rebels on eBay for a couple of weeks now. Saw a 2004 with over 40K go for $900, saw a 2008 with less than 1K go for just over $2,000 (probably should have jumped on that one, but I'm not quite ready to buy yet). Yesterday I came across these two for sale at a nearby gas station. a 1987 and 2004, both with under 20K miles, $1,500/each. Attached Thumbnails
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07-13-2009, 07:43 PM	#98
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07-13-2009, 09:44 PM	#102
wild1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 31040 Casino cash: $10004900	I don't understand "you can get a sportster for 3500" is like saying "you can get a ford pickup for 3500". well what year? what condition?
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07-13-2009, 09:44 PM	#103
wild1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 31040 Casino cash: $10004900	Nevermind. You guys are drunk.
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07-14-2009, 08:38 AM	#105
Fire Me Boy! Cast Iron Jedi Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $9999900 VARSITY	Budget just got tighter... found out the wife isn't likely headed to basic until February. Found a 2002 Honda Rebel, 1488 miles (woman rider), selling for $1600 on CL. Should be able to get less than that.
Posts: 35,253