Chiefs Cassel Succeeds Despite Chiefs - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2009, 10:05 AM

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Now you know why Scott Pioli decided Matt Cassel was worth a second-round draft choice and $63 million of Hunt money. He can make the best out of a horrible situation and look pretty calm doing it, as if it was business as usual. You saw it Friday night against the Minnesota Vikings.

Honestly, I hate to impugn the 10 other Chiefs who lined up with Cassel for a half. Football is the ultimate team game. But there’s no question about it – Cassel was the driving force. He was the engine that made the offense go, that directed two scoring drives.

The rest of his teammates? They tried to throw a monkey wrench into the machine more often than not.

On the first play from scrimmage, tight end Sean Ryan horribly blew a block on Minnesota’s Ray Edwards while Cassel carried out a play fake. But the Chiefs got a first down because Cassel had both the presence of mind to avoid Edwards and the burst to outrun Chad Greenway to the sticks.

One snap later, Mike Goff let Kevin Williams blow right past him and straight into his quarterback’s face. Not only did Cassel dodge Williams, he ducked under a Fred Evans tackle attempt and managed to ignore Ben Leber sprinting at him, hitting tight end Jake O’Connell for a first down. Oh, why was O’Connell open? Because Leber left coverage to try and stop the scrambling quarterback.

At this point, the Chiefs were past midfield with a promising drive going. After a dive play was stuffed and Jamaal Charles fumbled, any hope of a score was completely snuffed out, of course. Cassel can't do everything.

On the Chiefs’ next drive, Cassel fired a pass down the field towards Dwayne Bowe. It was fairly obvious the ball was thrown right where it needed to be – had it been thrown further to the outside, it was an easy interception for Antoine Winfield. But Bowe slowed his route coming out of the break and the ball sailed through the window, in and out of the hands of a safety backing up the play. Snaps like that may be why Bowe still hasn’t started a game this season.

But that’s OK – on the next play, Cassel was forced to run again, this time because of Edwards (Barry Richardson’s man). The progression of the play was blown, but as he ran, Cassel not only kept his eyes downfield, he sucked up the coverage and hit Bowe in stride for another first down.

There was some issue on this play as to whether or not Cassel was over the line of scrimmage. Perhaps he was. But what’s good enough for John Elway is good enough for another guy wearing #7. A few plays later, after Cassel ran around and completed another pass, the Chiefs got on the board with a field goal.

Later, the Chiefs had a third-and-15 after Devard Darling dropped a pass and Barry Richardson was flagged for a false start (two more monkey wrenches). The Vikings pushed the pocket right into Cassel’s face, but he acted as if he were standing alone in the middle of the Metrodome and hit Charles in stride for a first down. Of course the drive was doomed by a penalty and two sacks on the next series of downs. Cassel can’t do everything.

Alright, I’ll guess I’ll give credit to Larry Johnson for an 18-yard burst and Quinten Lawrence for a 14-yard end around. It’s amazing what happens when the Chiefs run the ball a little – Cassel leads a touchdown drive.

We probably shouldn’t be too hard on the Chiefs’ offensive line and running backs. After all, it was just a week ago that the Vikings got to Peyton Manning and the Colts in the worst way. Manning was sacked three times in five dropbacks. The Colts didn’t crack the end zone and totaled just 142 yards of offense for the entire game.

What the Chiefs did – or rather, what Cassel did, mostly - looks impressive by comparison. Think about this – what happens if Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle or Tyler Thigpen are under center? Most likely, Huard curls up into a little ball as Minnesota’s pass rush crushes him like a tsunami and Croyle leaves the game after something else breaks. Thigpen, while desperately looking for Tony Gonzalez, would likely escape only to chuck the ball into the ground, at a fan or a defensive back.

I could go on, talk about how Cassel was constantly turning his head, going through his progressions like a robot and throwing with consistent accuracy, but you get the idea. It’s nothing new, however. It’s all on tape, 16 games of it, from a year ago in New England. It’s the same player, doing the same things, leading his team down the field and into the end zone.

Oh, and speaking of New England, there was one other monkey wrench in the machine Friday night – the Chiefs placed Randy Moss and Wes Welker on their inactive list. Cassel looked totally helpless without them, didn’t he?

Richardson’s Opportunity

I could probably write an entire column about the disappointing play of right tackle Barry Richardson, but a blurb will do for now. Rarely, if ever, do you actually see an attached blurb in this space, but this is a special situation.

In River Falls this past week, Richardson received extensive snaps with the first-team offensive line. The Chiefs, like most of us, apparently aren’t huge Damion McIntosh fans, and knowing the youth, size and talent Richardson brings to the table, decided to give him an opportunity by starting him against the Vikings.

I’m no offensive line coach, but it’s doubtful Richardson impressed his too much Friday night. The Chiefs were counting on him to be the point man as they ran to the strong side in the first half, but all you really have to do is look at the box score – apart from one burst from Larry Johnson, KC’s running game ran into a brick wall and fell down, dazed.

When the Chiefs ran a stretch play on Johnson’s first carry, Richardson couldn’t seal Ray Edwards to the inside. Guess who dumped LJ for a two-yard loss? Edwards. Later, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock commented on how Richardson’s inability to pin Edwards to the inside made Johnson cut a run back up inside, into pursuit.

In pass protection, it was pretty clear Richardson struggled with Edwards’ speed. Cassel constantly had to step up in the pocket to avoid pressure to his right. But Edwards, who is only 268 pounds, even managed to embarrass Richardson with pure brute strength.

On the play in question, the Chiefs were in third and long, with an empty backfield. After setting up well initially, Richardson went flying and landed on his side after one well-timed shove from Edwards. Fortunately for Richardson, his quarterback was throwing the ball as this happened.

There were other things to dislike – Richardson had a false start, and looked a little slow getting off the ball on certain snaps. Immediately after Richardson was replaced by McIntosh in the second quarter, Johnson ripped off an 18-yard gain and the Chiefs scored a touchdown a few plays later.

Gee, I wonder why?

What happens if Richardson has to block Shawne Merriman? Yikes.

milkman · 08-22-2009, 10:46 AM

Another inevitable conclusion I came to is that even though Brian Waters looks to be in the best shape he's been in in years, he has lost a step (or more), and looks really slow.

One other observation, this on Albert.

He actually played pretty well.

There were two plays that people looked at that have led to unfair criticism.

On one, he was engaged with his man (Robison), pushing hi out and behind the pocket, when Charles came in and hit Robison, spun him out of the block, and turned it into a beeline to the QB.

The other, Albert was setting up to block Robison, with a saftey blitzing, a blitz that Charles shoul have picked up, but he instead ran to the outside shoulder of Albert again, forcing Albert to try and turn inside to pick up the bitz, which he simply didn't have time to pick up.

**SAUTO** · 08-22-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I noticed too he hasn't been playing well lately. Maybe they should give Colin Brown a shot?

brown had a couple of good plays last night, his feet looked good on the one that sticks out in my mind the most. but it was of course against 3rd stringers

ncCHIEFfan · 08-22-2009, 10:49 AM

Thanks for the DETAILED info milkman. I had to watch on Justintv(no rewind capabilities)

Chiefshrink · 08-22-2009, 10:59 AM

Like most of you my Chief brethern we have all experienced the wonderful sacks of DT on John Elway as well as the 'stinging brilliant athletic playmaking ability' and nemisis in John Elway with much awe and respect regardless of how many times he beat us.

I didn't watch MC last year except for the Chiefs game nor did I watch any remaining games of MC the rest of 2008. However, in last week's game against the Texans there was one play in which MC brilliantly scrambled out of the pocket and hit SR on the run only for SR to drop it reminded me so much of what Elway used do to us all the time.

After last nites performance of MC and I don't say this litely;we have found our John Elway. The whole night I caught myself in the "twilight zone" thinking MC is the 2nd coming of Elway. I couldn't "BELIEVE" how much he plays and looks like Elway on the field(regardless of MC wearing No.7 LOL!). Most of all MC's "instinctual feel and playmaking ability" in and out of the pocket was genius 'vintage Elway' of the past.

Fellas, it is our time to return the favor to Denver and the rest of the NFL for at least the next 10yrs. We are in good hands!!!

milkman · 08-22-2009, 11:01 AM

Another couple of observations, and this reiterates what I saw in the first game.

Alex Boone is not a starter quality DE, and Ron Edwards is about as useful as $10 hooker at a pRon convention.

Tank Tyler has looked stronger, more active, and played smarter, by far.

Even Derek Lokey, at 287 is a better NT than Edwards.

milkman · 08-22-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Like most of you my Chief brethern we have all experienced the wonderful sacks of DT on John Elway as well as the 'stinging brilliant athletic playmaking ability' and nemisis in John Elway with much awe and respect regardless of how many times he beat us.

I didn't watch MC last year except for the Chiefs game nor did I watch any remaining games of MC the rest of 2008. However, in last week's game against the Texans there was one play in which MC brilliantly scrambled out of the pocket and hit SR on the run only for SR to drop it reminded me so much of what Elway used do to us all the time.

After last nites performance of MC and I don't say this litely;we have found our John Elway. The whole night I caught myself in the "twilight zone" thinking MC is the 2nd coming of Elway. I couldn't "BELIEVE" how much he plays and looks like Elway on the field(regardless of MC wearing No.7 LOL!). Most of all MC's "instinctual feel and playmaking ability" in and out of the pocket was genius 'vintage Elway' of the past.

Fellas, it is our time to return the favor to Denver and the rest of the NFL for at least the next 10yrs. We are in good hands!!!

Wow......I think you need to see a shrink.

**SAUTO** · 08-22-2009, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Another couple of observations, and this reiterates what I saw in the first game.

Alex Boone is not a starter quality DE, and Ron Edwards is about as useful as $10 hooker at a pRon convention.

Tank Tyler has looked stronger, more active, and played smarter, by far.

Even Derek Lokey, at 287 is a better NT than Edwards.

agreed again, tyler took a blocker and a chip from another ol and still managed to tackle the RB on one of his first plays IIRC

wild1 · 08-22-2009, 11:12 AM

cassel succeeds despite the chiefs? what team does he play for?

Chiefshrink · 08-22-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Wow......I think you need to see a shrink.

Make sure you save this post because my 'sports analysis' as well as 'psychological analysis' is rarely ever wrong

We just need to make sure we get Matt an O-line in the near future

**the Talking Can** · 08-22-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The fact is, in rewatching the first half and replaying every snap, over and over again, I came to a couple of inevitable conclusions.

Mike Goff sucks ass, and LJ makes this O-Line look worse than it is because he has no vision, no patience, no power and no burst.

The one good run he made, he had a nice hole, created by a Richardson block, and he simply ran to the spot where the play was designed to run.

that is an excellent point

....opportunity costs don't show up in the box score....you see poor running stats and assume there were no holes, but in the case of Blind Larry Johnson...

not having watched it closely i'll take your more hopeful (than mine) assessment of richardson's performance...

**SAUTO** · 08-22-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

that is an excellent point

....opportunity costs don't show up in the box score....you see poor running stats and assume there were no holes, but in the case of Blind Larry Johnson...

not having watched it closely i'll take your more hopeful (than mine) assessment of richardson's performance...

milky is our resident oline guru, i watched it pretty closly this morning and i see what he saw. richardson looked adequate while goof(not sp. wrong)
looked bad

milkman · 08-22-2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Make sure you save this post because my 'sports analysis' as well as 'psychological analysis' is rarely ever wrong

We just need to make sure we get Matt an O-line in the near future

Let me put it another way.

You are a ****ing idiot.

JFC!

Elway.

Moron.

Dumbaass

Let me think.

I'll come up with more.

Skyy God · 08-22-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Like most of you my Chief brethern we have all experienced the wonderful sacks of DT on John Elway as well as the 'stinging brilliant athletic playmaking ability' and nemisis in John Elway with much awe and respect regardless of how many times he beat us.

I didn't watch MC last year except for the Chiefs game nor did I watch any remaining games of MC the rest of 2008. However, in last week's game against the Texans there was one play in which MC brilliantly scrambled out of the pocket and hit SR on the run only for SR to drop it reminded me so much of what Elway used do to us all the time.

After last nites performance of MC and I don't say this litely;we have found our John Elway. The whole night I caught myself in the "twilight zone" thinking MC is the 2nd coming of Elway. I couldn't "BELIEVE" how much he plays and looks like Elway on the field(regardless of MC wearing No.7 LOL!). Most of all MC's "instinctual feel and playmaking ability" in and out of the pocket was genius 'vintage Elway' of the past.

Fellas, it is our time to return the favor to Denver and the rest of the NFL for at least the next 10yrs. We are in good hands!!!

Yours posts: hyperbole: Seurat: pointillism

orange · 08-22-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Make sure you save this post because my 'sports analysis' as well as 'psychological analysis' is rarely ever wrong

Where did all your CasinoCash go?

**Saul Good** · 08-22-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

The fact is, in rewatching the first half and replaying every snap, over and over again, I came to a couple of inevitable conclusions.

Mike Goff sucks ass, and LJ makes this O-Line look worse than it is because he has no vision, no patience, no power and no burst.

The one good run he made, he had a nice hole, created by a Richardson block, and he simply ran to the spot where the play was designed to run.

Who did Richardson block on that play? Was is the waterboy? I was under the impression that he was out of the game at that point.

08-22-2009, 10:05 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $980478	Cassel Succeeds Despite Chiefs http://kan.scout.com/2/890791.html Now you know why Scott Pioli decided Matt Cassel was worth a second-round draft choice and $63 million of Hunt money. He can make the best out of a horrible situation and look pretty calm doing it, as if it was business as usual. You saw it Friday night against the Minnesota Vikings. Honestly, I hate to impugn the 10 other Chiefs who lined up with Cassel for a half. Football is the ultimate team game. But there’s no question about it – Cassel was the driving force. He was the engine that made the offense go, that directed two scoring drives. The rest of his teammates? They tried to throw a monkey wrench into the machine more often than not. On the first play from scrimmage, tight end Sean Ryan horribly blew a block on Minnesota’s Ray Edwards while Cassel carried out a play fake. But the Chiefs got a first down because Cassel had both the presence of mind to avoid Edwards and the burst to outrun Chad Greenway to the sticks. One snap later, Mike Goff let Kevin Williams blow right past him and straight into his quarterback’s face. Not only did Cassel dodge Williams, he ducked under a Fred Evans tackle attempt and managed to ignore Ben Leber sprinting at him, hitting tight end Jake O’Connell for a first down. Oh, why was O’Connell open? Because Leber left coverage to try and stop the scrambling quarterback. At this point, the Chiefs were past midfield with a promising drive going. After a dive play was stuffed and Jamaal Charles fumbled, any hope of a score was completely snuffed out, of course. Cassel can't do everything. On the Chiefs’ next drive, Cassel fired a pass down the field towards Dwayne Bowe. It was fairly obvious the ball was thrown right where it needed to be – had it been thrown further to the outside, it was an easy interception for Antoine Winfield. But Bowe slowed his route coming out of the break and the ball sailed through the window, in and out of the hands of a safety backing up the play. Snaps like that may be why Bowe still hasn’t started a game this season. But that’s OK – on the next play, Cassel was forced to run again, this time because of Edwards (Barry Richardson’s man). The progression of the play was blown, but as he ran, Cassel not only kept his eyes downfield, he sucked up the coverage and hit Bowe in stride for another first down. There was some issue on this play as to whether or not Cassel was over the line of scrimmage. Perhaps he was. But what’s good enough for John Elway is good enough for another guy wearing #7. A few plays later, after Cassel ran around and completed another pass, the Chiefs got on the board with a field goal. Later, the Chiefs had a third-and-15 after Devard Darling dropped a pass and Barry Richardson was flagged for a false start (two more monkey wrenches). The Vikings pushed the pocket right into Cassel’s face, but he acted as if he were standing alone in the middle of the Metrodome and hit Charles in stride for a first down. Of course the drive was doomed by a penalty and two sacks on the next series of downs. Cassel can’t do everything. Alright, I’ll guess I’ll give credit to Larry Johnson for an 18-yard burst and Quinten Lawrence for a 14-yard end around. It’s amazing what happens when the Chiefs run the ball a little – Cassel leads a touchdown drive. We probably shouldn’t be too hard on the Chiefs’ offensive line and running backs. After all, it was just a week ago that the Vikings got to Peyton Manning and the Colts in the worst way. Manning was sacked three times in five dropbacks. The Colts didn’t crack the end zone and totaled just 142 yards of offense for the entire game. What the Chiefs did – or rather, what Cassel did, mostly - looks impressive by comparison. Think about this – what happens if Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle or Tyler Thigpen are under center? Most likely, Huard curls up into a little ball as Minnesota’s pass rush crushes him like a tsunami and Croyle leaves the game after something else breaks. Thigpen, while desperately looking for Tony Gonzalez, would likely escape only to chuck the ball into the ground, at a fan or a defensive back. I could go on, talk about how Cassel was constantly turning his head, going through his progressions like a robot and throwing with consistent accuracy, but you get the idea. It’s nothing new, however. It’s all on tape, 16 games of it, from a year ago in New England. It’s the same player, doing the same things, leading his team down the field and into the end zone. Oh, and speaking of New England, there was one other monkey wrench in the machine Friday night – the Chiefs placed Randy Moss and Wes Welker on their inactive list. Cassel looked totally helpless without them, didn’t he? Richardson’s Opportunity I could probably write an entire column about the disappointing play of right tackle Barry Richardson, but a blurb will do for now. Rarely, if ever, do you actually see an attached blurb in this space, but this is a special situation. In River Falls this past week, Richardson received extensive snaps with the first-team offensive line. The Chiefs, like most of us, apparently aren’t huge Damion McIntosh fans, and knowing the youth, size and talent Richardson brings to the table, decided to give him an opportunity by starting him against the Vikings. I’m no offensive line coach, but it’s doubtful Richardson impressed his too much Friday night. The Chiefs were counting on him to be the point man as they ran to the strong side in the first half, but all you really have to do is look at the box score – apart from one burst from Larry Johnson, KC’s running game ran into a brick wall and fell down, dazed. When the Chiefs ran a stretch play on Johnson’s first carry, Richardson couldn’t seal Ray Edwards to the inside. Guess who dumped LJ for a two-yard loss? Edwards. Later, NFL Network’s Mike Mayock commented on how Richardson’s inability to pin Edwards to the inside made Johnson cut a run back up inside, into pursuit. In pass protection, it was pretty clear Richardson struggled with Edwards’ speed. Cassel constantly had to step up in the pocket to avoid pressure to his right. But Edwards, who is only 268 pounds, even managed to embarrass Richardson with pure brute strength. On the play in question, the Chiefs were in third and long, with an empty backfield. After setting up well initially, Richardson went flying and landed on his side after one well-timed shove from Edwards. Fortunately for Richardson, his quarterback was throwing the ball as this happened. There were other things to dislike – Richardson had a false start, and looked a little slow getting off the ball on certain snaps. Immediately after Richardson was replaced by McIntosh in the second quarter, Johnson ripped off an 18-yard gain and the Chiefs scored a touchdown a few plays later. Gee, I wonder why? What happens if Richardson has to block Shawne Merriman? Yikes.
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Another inevitable conclusion I came to is that even though Brian Waters looks to be in the best shape he's been in in years, he has lost a step (or more), and looks really slow. One other observation, this on Albert. He actually played pretty well. There were two plays that people looked at that have led to unfair criticism. On one, he was engaged with his man (Robison), pushing hi out and behind the pocket, when Charles came in and hit Robison, spun him out of the block, and turned it into a beeline to the QB. The other, Albert was setting up to block Robison, with a saftey blitzing, a blitz that Charles shoul have picked up, but he instead ran to the outside shoulder of Albert again, forcing Albert to try and turn inside to pick up the bitz, which he simply didn't have time to pick up. __________________
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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	Another couple of observations, and this reiterates what I saw in the first game. Alex Boone is not a starter quality DE, and Ron Edwards is about as useful as $10 hooker at a pRon convention. Tank Tyler has looked stronger, more active, and played smarter, by far. Even Derek Lokey, at 287 is a better NT than Edwards. __________________
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