Trying to trade Pollard? from NFP

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

So, how is this different than this year, when all we heard about was positional value? Is all that out the window and now we are back to BPA like 2 years ago?

It's hard to keep up with this, I guess it just depends on who you want us to draft that year.

Since there's not a QB you want next year, we should just throw positional value out the window and draft a safety?

Position value is a factor mixed with talent ability etc etc etc.

I think you make exceptions for freak players. 99 times out of 100 I'd tell you not to take a safety with a top 10 pick but there are 2 guys that warrant it this year.

There are a few exceptions every year just so happens this year they are both at the same position.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Position value is a factor mixed with talent ability etc etc etc.

I think you make exceptions for freak players. 99 times out of 100 I'd tell you not to take a safety with a top 10 pick but there are 2 guys that warrant it this year.

There are a few exceptions every year just so happens this year they are both at the same position.

Who were the exceptions this year?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Who were the exceptions this year?

Aaron Curry ended up being one, not that I think he should have been but that's personal opinion.

There's also a decent chance Malcolm Jenkins will end up as a FS within a few years which would make him one too.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Aaron Curry ended up being one, not that I think he should have been but that's personal opinion.

There's also a decent chance Malcolm Jenkins will end up as a FS within a few years which would make him one too.

I agree, Aaron Curry was an exception.

So, I would expect the same people who campaigned against him because of positional value this year to be campaigning against drafting a safety that high next year.

I disagree about Jenkins though. I don't think he is an elite talent.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I agree, Aaron Curry was an exception.

So, I would expect the same people who campaigned against him because of positional value this year to be campaigning against drafting a safety that high next year.

But what if you think the 2 safeties are more gifted than Curry as players, which I personally do?

If you put the 3 together Curry would be my last choice.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

But what if you think the 2 safeties are more gifted than Curry as players, which I personally do?

If you put the 3 together Curry would be my last choice.

Then that's your opinion. But I don't know how that opinion is any less dumb than anyone's opinion that thought we should take Curry this year. Those people were all called idiots who didn't understand positional value.

I guess anyone that wants us to draft a safety in the top 3 next year just doesn't understand positional value.

There was little debate about Curry the player this year. All the debate was about taking a non pass-rushing LB that high.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Then that's your opinion. But I don't know how that opinion is any less dumb than anyone's opinion that thought we should take Curry this year. Those people were all called idiots who didn't understand positional value.

I guess anyone that wants us to draft a safety in the top 3 next year just doesn't understand positional value.

There was little debate about Curry the player this year. All the debate was about taking a non pass-rushing LB that high.

It wasn't that he was a LB, it was that he's not a playmaker, a rush backer, which you allude to at the end. This was the entire point of the discussion, not an ancillary part.

Now, we'll have to see what Mays does this season, but it's impossible to argue that Berry is NOT a playmaker, so this is where a guy like Curry really shouldn't be in the same discussion.