Trying to trade Pollard? from NFP

[booger]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...h-Pollard.html

Biggs: Chiefs exploring trade options with Pollard

Move would create opening for Mike Brown in lineup

Brad Biggs

September 04, 2009, 06:55 PM EST

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring options to trade strong safety Bernard Pollard, a move that would create an opening for veteran Mike Brown to move into the starting lineup, sources said.

The 24-year-old Pollard, a fourth-year pro from Purdue, has made 31 starts the last two seasons. He had 98 tackles and one interception last season. But Brown was signed in late June to push both Pollard and free safety Jarrad Page.

“The defensive backfield as a whole, I think, there’s excellent competition,’’ Haley said late last month when asked if Brown had pushed Pollard for the job. “I don’t think there’s anybody who feels real comfortable. Mike’s one of the reasons for that but I think that’s the way it is across the board there. Those guys know there is somebody right behind them that could be playing just as well as them. That’s how you get your team good.”

Brown spent the last nine seasons with the Chicago Bears but has been injury plagued since 2004. He held it together to start 15 games last season, but had to leave three games early down the stretch with a recurring calf muscle pull and finally missed the finale. He is an instinctive player and made 101 tackles last season, the third-highest total in his career.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Aaron Curry ended up being one, not that I think he should have been but that's personal opinion.

There's also a decent chance Malcolm Jenkins will end up as a FS within a few years which would make him one too.

I agree, Aaron Curry was an exception.

So, I would expect the same people who campaigned against him because of positional value this year to be campaigning against drafting a safety that high next year.

I disagree about Jenkins though. I don't think he is an elite talent.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Darrell Stuckey.

Probably a 2nd rounder...but hey who knows.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

I agree, Aaron Curry was an exception.

So, I would expect the same people who campaigned against him because of positional value this year to be campaigning against drafting a safety that high next year.

But what if you think the 2 safeties are more gifted than Curry as players, which I personally do?

If you put the 3 together Curry would be my last choice.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I can give you a bunch of prospects how many do you want me to roll through? I can do some kind of list of who's likely going in the top 10 whatever.

Sure whenever you have time. I know we will be in the Top 3 so you might put in your Top 10 just in case we get lucky and win a couple of extra games.

[Mecca]

To verify either one would be fine with me, I think both Mays and Berry will have very long productive NFL careers where they get named to numerous all pro teams and all of that.

They're 1a and 1b. I don't see major pressing need with the other elite players that will be available.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

But what if you think the 2 safeties are more gifted than Curry as players, which I personally do?

If you put the 3 together Curry would be my last choice.

Then that's your opinion. But I don't know how that opinion is any less dumb than anyone's opinion that thought we should take Curry this year. Those people were all called idiots who didn't understand positional value.

I guess anyone that wants us to draft a safety in the top 3 next year just doesn't understand positional value.

There was little debate about Curry the player this year. All the debate was about taking a non pass-rushing LB that high.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by Mecca

To verify either one would be fine with me, I think both Mays and Berry will have very long productive NFL careers where they get named to numerous all pro teams and all of that.

They're 1a and 1b. I don't see major pressing need with the other elite players that will be available.

You think we're set at NT?

[ForeverChiefs58]

a top OL will emerge and we should draft him.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I can give you a bunch of prospects how many do you want me to roll through? I can do some kind of list of who's likely going in the top 10 whatever.

Mecca Kiper Jr. You gotta slick your long hair back. Submit a video to ESPN. You are golden.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Sure whenever you have time. I know we will be in the Top 3 so you might put in your Top 10 just in case we get lucky and win a couple of extra games.

I'm gonna do it right now off the top of my head...this has nothing to do with personal like or dislike just guys I think are going high based on how the NFL works.

Sam Bradford
Russell Okung
Taylor Mays
Eric Berry
Carlos Dunlap
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Trent Williams
Damian Williams
Arrellious Benn
Dez Bryant
Jermaine Gresham
Bryan Bulaga
Greg Hardy
Sergio Kindle
Terrence Cody

There's a good list of some top prospects...who would you take?

[ForeverChiefs58]

We will need a new QB to replace the one that will be killed behind our swiss cheese OL

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by doomy3

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You think we're set at NT?

I wouldn't take Terrence Cody with a top 5 pick, top 15 pick yea top 5 no.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by doomy3

Then that's your opinion. But I don't know how that opinion is any less dumb than anyone's opinion that thought we should take Curry this year. Those people were all called idiots who didn't understand positional value.

I guess anyone that wants us to draft a safety in the top 3 next year just doesn't understand positional value.

There was little debate about Curry the player this year. All the debate was about taking a non pass-rushing LB that high.

It wasn't that he was a LB, it was that he's not a playmaker, a rush backer, which you allude to at the end. This was the entire point of the discussion, not an ancillary part.

Now, we'll have to see what Mays does this season, but it's impossible to argue that Berry is NOT a playmaker, so this is where a guy like Curry really shouldn't be in the same discussion.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by doomy3

So, how is this different than this year, when all we heard about was positional value? Is all that out the window and now we are back to BPA like 2 years ago?

It's hard to keep up with this, I guess it just depends on who you want us to draft that year.

Since there's not a QB you want next year, we should just throw positional value out the window and draft a safety?

Positional value is just a bullshit way to attack draft picks that people don't like. As with pretty much every generalization in life, there will always be exceptions. The fact that this year was weak at the top and people were still singing about positional value just exposed them as either not using their heads or pushing an agenda.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

a top OL will emerge and we should draft him.

Russ Okung is going in the top 5 as a OT and several guys I listed in my list are OT's so they will be there.