Trying to trade Pollard? from NFP

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Biggs: Chiefs exploring trade options with Pollard

Move would create opening for Mike Brown in lineup

Brad Biggs

September 04, 2009, 06:55 PM EST

The Kansas City Chiefs are exploring options to trade strong safety Bernard Pollard, a move that would create an opening for veteran Mike Brown to move into the starting lineup, sources said.

The 24-year-old Pollard, a fourth-year pro from Purdue, has made 31 starts the last two seasons. He had 98 tackles and one interception last season. But Brown was signed in late June to push both Pollard and free safety Jarrad Page.

“The defensive backfield as a whole, I think, there’s excellent competition,’’ Haley said late last month when asked if Brown had pushed Pollard for the job. “I don’t think there’s anybody who feels real comfortable. Mike’s one of the reasons for that but I think that’s the way it is across the board there. Those guys know there is somebody right behind them that could be playing just as well as them. That’s how you get your team good.”

Brown spent the last nine seasons with the Chicago Bears but has been injury plagued since 2004. He held it together to start 15 games last season, but had to leave three games early down the stretch with a recurring calf muscle pull and finally missed the finale. He is an instinctive player and made 101 tackles last season, the third-highest total in his career.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

There's a ****ing shocker Mecca Jr., even though we have competent, and possibly, with proper coaching, good to very good safeties on the roster. But let's focus on that position as need because we put up a YouTube highlight reel of Mays.

Not that we don't need more talent at other positions...

But let's pick a safety because we don't pick RT's and LB's with a first round pick.

I mean, shit. Pollard, Page, Morgan, Brown and McGraw are all decent. But yet we're happy to piss away our first rounder on Mays or Berry while our qb continues to get ****ing killed because we can't get a RT. Or we continually get running backs breaking out for 30+ yard carries because Dino Hackett was the last decent MLB that the Chiefs have had. Oh, but don't draft those positions because they don't have any ****ing value in the top ten!

We have DJ and the surprise of camp Corey Mays at LB right now they are just as decent as our safeties. They may not set the world on fire but it in no way means we should spend a top 10 pick on a ILB. That could change if Mays completely disappears in the regular season or if DJ doesn't respond to being demoted like Bowe did.

We have picks later in the draft that can help with the Oline we don't have to have two tackles that were taken in the top 15. We can easily get a RT in the 2nd or later, same goes for the other line positions if we haven't gotten some serious help from FA already.

NT again can be filled by a less risky player later in the draft. Second or possibly 3rd round, and this is the position that will make the LBers better.

If Kindle has a huge year, I could see going with him to get us a pass rusher but as it stands why not go for one of, if not the top 2 players in the draft. Berry is a game changer and Mays has the potential to be regarded as one of the best at what he does. Spikes is good but like Tebow is a product of the Florida hype machine not a top 10 talent in this draft.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Ok here is how I see the Chiefs draft targets next year....

QB
1. The midget winner Todd Reesing
2. Sam Bradford
3. That guy from Ole Miss who is from Texas who wears cowboy boots

RB
1. White Running back from central Ks
2. Jahvid Best
3. Evan Royster

WR
1. Dezmon "I can't read" Briscoe
2. Dez Bryant
3. Arrelious Benn

SS
1. The guy that bangs Tyrel Reed's sister
2. Taylor Mays
3. Eric Berry

TE
1. Kansas' old QB that isn't good enough to play QB so he has to catch the ball now
2. Jermaine Gresham
3. Rob Gronkowski

I am definitely not biased.

She is hot

Oh and I would use a 2nd on Briscoe if he enters the draft.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Ok here is how I see the Chiefs draft targets next year....

QB
1. The midget winner Todd Reesing

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Todd's going to be our Terrific Tom that we get in the 6th and ends up being our savior.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

We have DJ and the surprise of camp Corey Mays at LB right now they are just as decent as our safeties. They may not set the world on fire but it in no way means we should spend a top 10 pick on a ILB. That could change if Mays completely disappears in the regular season or if DJ doesn't respond to being demoted like Bowe did.

We have picks later in the draft that can help with the Oline we don't have to have two tackles that were taken in the top 15. We can easily get a RT in the 2nd or later, same goes for the other line positions if we haven't gotten some serious help from FA already.

NT again can be filled by a less risky player later in the draft. Second or possibly 3rd round, and this is the position that will make the LBers better.

If Kindle has a huge year, I could see going with him to get us a pass rusher but as it stands why not go for one of, if not the top 2 players in the draft. Berry is a game changer and Mays has the potential to be regarded as one of the best at what he does. Spikes is good but like Tebow is a product of the Florida hype machine not a top 10 talent in this draft.

As long as you are happy with Demarrio then I guess we're good. And when has a safety been a "game changer?"

Look, I've got no problem with either Mays or Berry. Both are studs. But they are playing a position that is even less important than RT or MLB. That's a fact. And for you to devalue the OL or LB to the second round and beyond, but still hold up the SS position as a viable top five pick is bullshit.

And if we didn't already have competent safeties (regardless of the recent GoChiefs anti-Pollard campaign), I'd be right there with you on Mays or Berry. But it's obvious that this team needs help at other positions besides safety with their first pick. Pollard, Page and Morgan are all young and have talent. They could benefit from better coaching, but it's not like they are completely devoid.

You can't tell me that the LB spot (MLB or ROLB), RT/RG/C or TE spots don't need more immediate help than the safety position.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

She is hot

Oh and I would use a 2nd on Briscoe if he enters the draft.

All joking aside, I think Briscoe is going to be way to slow to warrant a 2nd round pick. He's going to run like a 4.73 at the combine and he'll slip to 4th I would think.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Todd's going to be our Terrific Tom that we get in the 6th and ends up being our savior.

And GoChiefs will write for SI, and Mecca will convert to Christianity after Tim Tebow shows him the light, and Skip will date Heidi Klume, and South Carolina BBQ will taste good, and Reaper 16 will join AA, and R. Lee Ermey will come out of the closet, and SHTSPRAYER will start a hippie commune, and men will watch the Lifetime Network with their wives, and STYX will finally be hailed as a "cool" band.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by Saccogoo

As long as you are happy with Demarrio then I guess we're good. And when has a safety been a "game changer?"

Look, I've got no problem with either Mays or Berry. Both are studs. But they are playing a position that is even less important than RT or MLB. That's a fact. And for you to devalue the OL or LB to the second round and beyond, but still hold up the SS position as a viable top five pick is bullshit.

And if we didn't already have competent safeties (regardless of the recent GoChiefs anti-Pollard campaign), I'd be right there with you on Mays or Berry. But it's obvious that this team needs help at other positions besides safety with their first pick. Pollard, Page and Morgan are all young and have talent. They could benefit from better coaching, but it's not like they are completely devoid.

You can't tell me that the LB spot (MLB or ROLB), RT/RG/C or TE spots don't need more immediate help than the safety position.

Your saying Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu aren't game changers?

Yes we need help on the line and LB and if Kindle shows something he will be who I want for ROLB but for now he really hasn't shown enough. I'd also say we need another WR before a TE. We could use a better TE but you don't need a All Pro there to have a high powered offense and you damn sure don't need to spend a top 10 pick on one.

The positions you mentioned can all be filled in rounds outside of the first. Yes, Normally you don't go Safety in the first either, but when you have rare talent you make exceptions like you said these guys are studs(and to let you know I don't really like what we currently have at safety either). You don't see many Centers go in the first round this past draft there were 2 that did and 3 that all realistically could have gone in the first.

That might not be the best comparison, but the point is when there are extremely good prospects you like you take them when they are on the board. While Spikes might be good, if we were going to take a ILB that high don't you think we would have taken Curry?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Your saying Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu aren't game changers?

Yes we need help on the line and LB and if Kindle shows something he will be who I want for ROLB but for now he really hasn't shown enough. I'd also say we need another WR before a TE. We could use a better TE but you don't need a All Pro there to have a high powered offense and you damn sure don't need to spend a top 10 pick on one.

The positions you mentioned can all be filled in rounds outside of the first. Yes, Normally you don't go Safety in the first either, but when you have rare talent you make exceptions like you said these guys are studs(and to let you know I don't really like what we currently have at safety either). You don't see many Centers go in the first round this past draft there were 2 that did and 3 that all realistically could have gone in the first.

That might not be the best comparison, but the point is when there are extremely good prospects you like you take them when they are on the board. While Spikes might be good, if we were going to take a ILB that high don't you think we would have taken Curry?

So Delexus would you rather draft a safety than Terrance Cody? What Pioli says is he doesn't nessecarily get the best player talent wise but the best player who fits the scheme. I think Cody would be the best pick for the Chiefs.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

All joking aside, I think Briscoe is going to be way to slow to warrant a 2nd round pick. He's going to run like a 4.73 at the combine and he'll slip to 4th I would think.

As a KU fan, I hope not....but I agree that he could put up some bad numbers and slip.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by billay

So Delexus would you rather draft a safety than Terrance Cody? What Pioli says is he doesn't nessecarily get the best player talent wise but the best player who fits the scheme. I think Cody would be the best pick for the Chiefs.

That is a tough one since we need a NT in the worst way. I honestly don't think Cody is worth going that high. If he gets a $40 mill deal he is going to get even lazier than he is and that is a problem with a already 365 pound player. If the draft was tomorrow and none of these guys got to play this year, I would probably go Safety and then target Boo Robinson or a Dan Williams in the 2nd/3rd.

After the season Safety, WR, Kindle, or Cody could be my top pick depending on performances and reports on work ethic (Cody)

[salame]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

That is a tough one since we need a NT in the worst way. I honestly don't think Cody is worth going that high. If he gets a $40 mill deal he is going to get even lazier than he is and that is a problem with a already 365 pound player. If the draft was tomorrow and none of these guys got to play this year, I would probably go Safety and then target Boo Robinson or a Dan Williams in the 2nd/3rd.

After the season Safety, WR, Kindle, or Cody could be my top pick depending on performances and reports on work ethic (Cody)

the problem with targeting robinson is that all of the other 3-4 teams will want him also

the days of 3-4 steals are gone with the exception on maybe linebackers

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

That might not be the best comparison, but the point is when there are extremely good prospects you like you take them when they are on the board. While Spikes might be good, if we were going to take a ILB that high don't you think we would have taken Curry?

Curry was a strong side outside linebacker who was projected into the middle at the pro level. Spikes is a pure Mike backer that is the same level at his position as Mays and Berry, and probably has done more on the field than either. The guy is a killing machine that is that once in a generation type of guy. Think of Laurinaitis' instincts, Rey's brutality, and the athletic ability of a Pat Willis - maybe more. Same thing could be said of Jermaine Gresham at tight end. Absolute freak of nature that is like a Adrian Peterson for his position - simply bigger and faster than any other TE out there. You could say the same thing about Trent Williams at RT, who looks to be the best pure RT since Tait.

And Dunlap is just over-the-top freakish physically. He makes Mays look like the Pillsbury dough boy in comparison. Plus there are really good rush ends/34 ROLB in Kindle and Selvie.

Both Mays and Berry look to be Woodson/Reed clones. But we have more immediate needs at a multitude of position other than safety, and with a lot of guys in this next draft that have the potential to be game changers at positions we desperately need, I don't see where using that pick on a safety is the best option.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by salame

the problem with targeting robinson is that all of the other 3-4 teams will want him also

the days of 3-4 steals are gone with the exception on maybe linebackers

Thats a valid point, but I think he'll at least be like Ron Brace was and available in the early 2nd if not later. Of course you never know so there is that risk since there are more teams running the 3-4 and there are only so many NT's. It just comes down to do you think Cody will be the BA you need in the middle or will he eat himself out of the league? From everything I've read Cody has a terrible work ethic.

[salame]

Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

Thats a valid point, but I think he'll at least be like Ron Brace was and available in the early 2nd if not later. Of course you never know so there is that risk since there are more teams running the 3-4 and there are only so many NT's. It just comes down to do you think Cody will be the BA you need in the middle or will he eat himself out of the league? From everything I've read Cody has a terrible work ethic.

well, Raji was supposed to the best nt in this last draft and he is a de now
I think it's hard to project rookie nose tackles and that position can be addressed through free agency

If I had my way they would draft ray lewis...I mean Brandon Spikes