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Old 09-06-2009, 10:16 AM   #1
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well marvin harrison hasnt shot anyone this month
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While Pashos is nothing to write home about, comparing him to McIntosh is akin to comparing a wrench to a pen with no ink.

If you want to hammer a nail, a wrench can get the job done if you don't have a hammer, while the pen with no ink is absolutely ****ing useless in every conceiveable way.

Can't even ****ing write a note to someone to get you a ****ing hammer.
I think you could stab your eyes out with it after you looked at the depth chart.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:20 AM   #2
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I think you could stab your eyes out with it after you looked at the depth chart.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:21 AM   #3
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I think you could stab your eyes out with it after you looked at the depth chart.
So letting Damion McIntosh protect your QB is like stabbing your eyes out with and inkless pen?
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:26 AM   #4
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So letting Damion McIntosh protect your QB is like stabbing your eyes out with and inkless pen?
I think that's where I was going with that, yes.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:29 AM   #5
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:28 AM   #6
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I don't really see the surprise here. First of all, I doubt that this is the final roster. Second, this team had the worst roster in the NFL last year. If it happens again this year, it's just more of the same.

Fixing a flat tire will take a few minutes. Cleaning up after a 10.6 earthquake in southern California will take a hell of a lot longer.

This team isn't just a flat tire kind of problem.

On the other hand, the Raiders may just be a problem on the "War of the Worlds" scope.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:37 AM   #7
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I don't really see the surprise here. First of all, I doubt that this is the final roster. Second, this team had the worst roster in the NFL last year. If it happens again this year, it's just more of the same.

Fixing a flat tire will take a few minutes. Cleaning up after a 10.6 earthquake in southern California will take a hell of a lot longer.

This team isn't just a flat tire kind of problem.
You definitely have a point, but at the same time, the team spent 100 million dollars on 2 players this off-season and we still have the worst roster in the league, primarily because we offered no protection or insurance for 60 of that 100 million.

Even with the shit salad we had last year, the overweight players, lack of discipline, etc, the team really would have won 5-6 games with a marginally competent coaching staff on game day.

We blew two huge leads against SD and Tampa at home and should have beaten the Jets and San Diego on the road.

I think that the FO has the right idea in terms of trying to build on the D-Line and securing the QB who they think can lead this team. Unfortunately, I wish that we had considered protecting said QB rather than making redundant picks in rounds 3 and 4.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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You definitely have a point, but at the same time, the team spent 100 million dollars on 2 players this off-season and we still have the worst roster in the league, primarily because we offered no protection or insurance for 60 of that 100 million.

Even with the shit salad we had last year, the overweight players, lack of discipline, etc, the team really would have won 5-6 games with a marginally competent coaching staff on game day.

We blew two huge leads against SD and Tampa at home and should have beaten the Jets and San Diego on the road.

I think that the FO has the right idea in terms of trying to build on the D-Line and securing the QB who they think can lead this team. Unfortunately, I wish that we had considered protecting said QB rather than making redundant picks in rounds 3 and 4.
I don't want to revisit the O-line thing too much, because it's really been dealt with before, but since you brought it up:

Mecca wanted the team to take Meredith instead of Brown. Meredith got cut. It's the nature of the beast that taking offensive linemen in the later rounds is not likely to help in that player's rookie season. You may have had other options in mind, but drafting O-linemen outside of the top round or two for help in year 1 is a very bad way to go about things. The team did take Brown, and he 'earned' a spot on the IR, which is more than Meredith managed to pull off in Green Bay.

The problem has been that the attempts to address the o-line haven't been successful. Goff has looked slow, for example. But Pioli isn't going to overspend, so top flight players aren't going to come to K.C. until the team can show that it's really turning things around. It's like pulling a heavy object. The energy required to get it moving and up to speed is more than the energy required to keep it going.
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:52 AM   #9
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I don't want to revisit the O-line thing too much, because it's really been dealt with before, but since you brought it up:

Mecca wanted the team to take Meredith instead of Brown. Meredith got cut. It's the nature of the beast that taking offensive linemen in the later rounds is not likely to help in that player's rookie season. You may have had other options in mind, but drafting O-linemen outside of the top round or two for help in year 1 is a very bad way to go about things. The team did take Brown, and he 'earned' a spot on the IR, which is more than Meredith managed to pull off in Green Bay.

The problem has been that the attempts to address the o-line haven't been successful. Goff has looked slow, for example. But Pioli isn't going to overspend, so top flight players aren't going to come to K.C. until the team can show that it's really turning things around. It's like pulling a heavy object. The energy required to get it moving and up to speed is more than the energy required to keep it going.
Meredith got cut by a team with outstanding O-Line depth.

Is it too ****ing hard to understand?
A team with depth cuts the kid.
A team with nothing but absolute crap doesn't.

If he's drafted by the Chiefs, he would have had a very good chance to make this team, and taking an OT who has zero upside at RT in Brown over an actual OT prospect in Meredith is still a ****ing stupid draft choice.
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Meredith got cut by a team with outstanding O-Line depth.

Is it too ****ing hard to understand?
A team with depth cuts the kid.
A team with nothing but absolute crap doesn't.

If he's drafted by the Chiefs, he would have had a very good chance to make this team, and taking an OT who has zero upside at RT in Brown over an actual OT prospect in Meredith is still a ****ing stupid draft choice.
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I don't want to revisit the O-line thing too much, because it's really been dealt with before, but since you brought it up:

Mecca wanted the team to take Meredith instead of Brown. Meredith got cut. It's the nature of the beast that taking offensive linemen in the later rounds is not likely to help in that player's rookie season. You may have had other options in mind, but drafting O-linemen outside of the top round or two for help in year 1 is a very bad way to go about things. The team did take Brown, and he 'earned' a spot on the IR, which is more than Meredith managed to pull off in Green Bay.

The problem has been that the attempts to address the o-line haven't been successful. Goff has looked slow, for example. But Pioli isn't going to overspend, so top flight players aren't going to come to K.C. until the team can show that it's really turning things around. It's like pulling a heavy object. The energy required to get it moving and up to speed is more than the energy required to keep it going.
Colin Brown was, for all intents and purposes, cut. They just didn't want him to take up a PS spot in case someone liked him, so they played the system. And this happened on an awful, awful team.

Meredith being cut from GB is a totally different animal. Look at milkman's response.

I think Pioli is making a smart move by not chasing broken down guys like Runyan, but Mike Goff is awful, and trading draft choices for Alleman and Ndukwe, when they were going to get cut anyway and you have waiver priority, doesn't strike me as very wise.

If you look out there, you could give a shot to Schuening, Canfield, Meredith, Cadogan, Shipley, and several other guys out there. If they don't work, it's no loss, but they have the potential and ability to contribute to a solid OL.
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:07 AM   #12
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Colin Brown was, for all intents and purposes, cut. They just didn't want him to take up a PS spot in case someone liked him, so they played the system. And this happened on an awful, awful team.

Meredith being cut from GB is a totally different animal. Look at milkman's response.

I think Pioli is making a smart move by not chasing broken down guys like Runyan, but Mike Goff is awful, and trading draft choices for Alleman and Ndukwe, when they were going to get cut anyway and you have waiver priority, doesn't strike me as very wise.

If you look out there, you could give a shot to Schuening, Canfield, Meredith, Cadogan, Shipley, and several other guys out there. If they don't work, it's no loss, but they have the potential and ability to contribute to a solid OL.
Milkman's response was a weak one, and Brown wasn't cut. Now, the reality is that Brown will have a year to develop himself enough to stick with the team. Whether that will help him or not remains to be seen. If you want to argue odds, you're on your own there, because I couldn't begin to think of a way to make them accurate.
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