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Old 09-12-2009, 10:21 AM  
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Seymour says he’s excited to join Raiders

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Old 09-12-2009, 02:00 PM   #31
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Do you think he feels the same way? Really? Listen. I'm glad you're happy with your team. I'm happy with your team too. I hope Al Davis lives to 160.
I do too because the team in Oakland is a far superior team to the team that is in KC now and in a week or so you all will find out.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:00 PM   #32
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And pissing away next years first rounder.
Raiders still have next year's 1st rounder. They traded the 2011 1st rd pick.

Vrable was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being honest.

Seymor was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being dishonest.

ChiefsFan logic....
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:01 PM   #33
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I do too because the team in Oakland is a far superior team to the team that is in KC now and in a week or so you all will find out.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:03 PM   #34
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Raiders still have next year's 1st rounder. They traded the 2011 1st rd pick.

Vrable was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being honest.

Seymor was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being dishonest.

ChiefsFan logic....
Neither one of those guys are happy. Why would they be? Vrabel goes to a rebuilding team that won't compete until he retires. And Seymour goes to the worst run franchise in professional sports.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:03 PM   #35
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Raiders still have next year's 1st rounder. They traded the 2011 1st rd pick.

Vrable was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being honest.

Seymor was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being dishonest.

ChiefsFan logic....
Damned if you didn't nail that one Duck...

I swear, as a opponent, I like the Cheap fans better than any, they know football and are good people, but every once in a while they act like Bronco fans and need to be slapped down
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:13 PM   #36
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Damned if you didn't nail that one Duck...
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:20 PM   #37
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you missle twisters are forgetting the Raiders won more than DOUBLE the games your Cheaps did last year.... I am not proud but it would be far worse for him in KC
Don't kid yourself.

Haley > "Jawbreaker" Cable

Pioli > The Cryptkeeper

Cassel > "Fat Albert" Russell

At least the Chiefs have some hope. It's like a plain girl, getting a makeover to be pretty. The Raiders, on the other hand, are that ugly douchebag who pancakes on the makeup and THINKS she's pretty, without noticing that everyone around her finds her revolting.

The Lions, winless last season, having gotten rid of Millen, even THEY have more hope than Oakland. And will probably finish with a better record than the Raiders.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:32 PM   #38
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Don't kid yourself.

Haley > "Jawbreaker" Cable

Pioli > The Cryptkeeper

Cassel > "Fat Albert" Russell

At least the Chiefs have some hope. It's like a plain girl, getting a makeover to be pretty. The Raiders, on the other hand, are that ugly douchebag who pancakes on the makeup and THINKS she's pretty, without noticing that everyone around her finds her revolting.

The Lions, winless last season, having gotten rid of Millen, even THEY have more hope than Oakland. And will probably finish with a better record than the Raiders.
You have no clue on Haley yet, he is a great prospect and obviously a brilliant mind but he is a rookie head coach in the NFL and until he proves otherwise, thats all he is in my book, this is a Homer assumption

Cassel is a product of the Patriots system and I think this guy will disappoint you and you all have lofty expectations of him behind a bad offensive line. I will take Russell anyday than Cassel

Pioli is good, I will give you credit for that and should produce a good system in KC, but it won't be close this yr to a turnaround
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:35 PM   #39
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Raiders still have next year's 1st rounder. They traded the 2011 1st rd pick.

Vrable was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being honest.

Seymor was unhappy about being traded from NE to a freakin loser team. Now he sez he's happy. He's being dishonest.

ChiefsFan logic....

Different situations. First, Vrabel is at the very end of his career. He had a bonus coming that the Pats were not going to pay. He was going to be cut, or he would have to renegotiate his contract.

He knows that he would not have gotten the same deal anywhere else.

Plus, Pioli is here, and Vrabel has to feel better about playing for a team with the GM that helped BB build three Super Bowl winners than playing for the Raiders.

I think both would rather play with the Pats this year. But, I Vrabel has to be far more satisfied with his situation than Seymour with his.
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Different situations. First, Vrabel is at the very end of his career. He had a bonus coming that the Pats were not going to pay. He was going to be cut, or he would have to renegotiate his contract.

He knows that he would not have gotten the same deal anywhere else.

Plus, Pioli is here, and Vrabel has to feel better about playing for a team with the GM that helped BB build three Super Bowl winners than playing for the Raiders.

I think both would rather play with the Pats this year. But, I Vrabel has to be far more satisfied with his situation than Seymour with his.
Lets see, the Raiders were last in the Superbowl in 2002 and the Cheaps were last in the SB when Gatorade was invented...

You say Vrabel is a short timer and in the same breath you say your GM has built 3 SB winners.... Tell me again how this helps Vrabel unless the Chiefs plan to shock the world this year.
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You have no clue on Haley yet, he is a great prospect and obviously a brilliant mind but he is a rookie head coach in the NFL and until he proves otherwise, thats all he is in my book, this is a Homer assumption
And what's Cable's resume? He was a friggin O-LINE coach, fer crissake. At least Haley was a coordinator. And Haley doesn't go around breaking his assistants' jaws. Cable's a freakin' joke right now. At least Haley has shown some positive traits. And I'm not a "homer", I'm a Patriots fan. If the Chiefs had a shitty coach, I'd say so. Their O-line? Shitty. Their winning history lately? Shitty. Their coach? WAY better than yours.

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Russell sucks so bad the fans should leave a $20 on his dresser. And the "product of the system" argument has been had time and again, on many players. I remember hearing it about Brady. Does a good cast make a QB better? Duh. But the QB still has to avoid the pressure, stand tall in the pocket, make the accurate throws. Randy Moss and Wes Welker weren't catching balls from a JUGS machine last season. Cassel displayed all the necessary tools... which is a hell of a lot more than Russell has done yet.

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Pioli is good, I will give you credit for that and should produce a good system in KC, but it won't be close this yr to a turnaround
And I don't believe anyone in Chiefs-land has said that. I haven't heard them predicting a Super Bowl. Unlike you Raider homers, who think picking up Seymour has suddenly made you a juggernaut.

I think the Chiefs will surprise people. I think they'll be close to .500 by the end of the year, especially given the easier games in the final five weeks. Hell, they might even make 9-7 and fall short of a wildcard spot. But even if they suck to the tune of 2 wins, I think they'll still show progress in a positive direction. The Raiders, on the other hand, will just suck. Cryptkeeper sucks, Russell sucks, Cable will suck, the fans suck, the city sucks, the record will suck... it will be a suckfect of suckalicious proportions, LOL. How that team fell so far so fast from a Super Bowl in '02, it's almost pathetic. They have zero direction, and zero hope, and Cable will probably be fired by the halfway point.
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:47 PM   #42
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Lets see, the Raiders were last in the Superbowl in 2002 and the Cheaps were last in the SB when Gatorade was invented...
Your team went downhill faster than a classic Cadillac with two dead bodies in the trunk. You're proud of that fact? The '02 SB was a result of the leftovers from the Gruden era (before Callahan f**ked it up), and the last gasp of Rich Gannon. And you LOST that game, by the way. The fact that your team was such a flash-in-the-pan is NOT cause for gloating.
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I do too because the team in Oakland is a far superior team to the team that is in KC now and in a week or so you all will find out.
do you promise to take your ex convict parole violating raider fan ass back to a raider forum, and never come back again if they lose? what am i talking about, of course you will. you monkey ****ers never come to eat your crow.

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You have no clue on Haley yet, he is a great prospect and obviously a brilliant mind but he is a rookie head coach in the NFL and until he proves otherwise, thats all he is in my book, this is a Homer assumption

Cassel is a product of the Patriots system and I think this guy will disappoint you and you all have lofty expectations of him behind a bad offensive line. I will take Russell anyday than Cassel

Pioli is good, I will give you credit for that and should produce a good system in KC, but it won't be close this yr to a turnaround
russel is not going to do anything in the nfl. he's an oversized byron leftwich, slow, sloppy mechanics and a painfully slow release. i'll take cassel's tools over fatty's anyday. granted, we don't know much about haley as a head coach, but i like the change in philosphy he brought to the chiefs organization. oh, and he doesn't have to break any of his assistant coach's jaws. i'm actually still evaluating pioli right now, if the team makes strides this year, i'll be behind him, but until i see improvement in the results i'm skeptical.


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Lets see, the Raiders were last in the Superbowl in 2002 and the Cheaps were last in the SB when Gatorade was invented...

You say Vrabel is a short timer and in the same breath you say your GM has built 3 SB winners.... Tell me again how this helps Vrabel unless the Chiefs plan to shock the world this year.

The Raiders hold the record for the most double digit losing seasons. They are still in that streak and likely adding to it. Your head coach assaulted one of your other coaches. Your franchise is a joke.... not just with Chiefs fans.... with everyone. Listen to any National sportstalk show.... and they can't help but laugh when the Raiders are brought up.

The Chiefs meanwhile landed Scott Pioli. The guy that several teams have tried to hire over the last few years. The guy that Vrabel is familiar with. The guy that Vrabel knows is capable of building a winner.... and has done so recently.

The suck that is the Raiders goes far beyond their onfield struggles.

Oh, and Vrabel knows he makes more as a Chief than he would have made as a Pat or any other team. Kind of eases the pain.
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Richard will have as big of an impact on the win/loss ratio as Jared Allen did in KC.
I sure the hell hope not..we went from a playoff team to 4 wins.
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