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Old 10-30-2009, 11:01 AM  
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Texans fans seem to be falling in love with Pollard.
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http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66399


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/pos...ns-improving-d
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:06 PM   #31
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As opposed to the 22 carries for 222 yards they gave up against Tennessee?

Again, some of you are missing the point, that regardless of the number of times the opponent was running the ball, the Texans were allowing huge chunks of yardage PER CARRY.

They aren't doing that now.
we are, we are!!!

**** mike brown!!!!

I haven't ran the numbers, but one of them pmd me saying they are the #1 per carry rush defense since he broke the starting lineup at less than 3/rush.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:35 PM   #32
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What sucks is that we could have drafted him in the 3rd round.....possibly later, and not have reached to him with a 2nd.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:39 PM   #33
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You realize that yards per carry is an AVERAGE?

Which means it doesn't matter is they ran the ball 20 times or 40 - they are still only giving up 2.7 (or whatever the exact number is) PER CARRY since his placement in the lineup.

Had I said that they haven't allowed a 100-yard rusher since his arrival, you'd have a point.
YEAH i realize that, but less runs= less chances to break a big one. and most rushing yards are accumulated in the 4th qtr after defenses are worn down, do you not realize that?
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:41 PM   #34
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YEAH i realize that, but less runs= less chances to break a big one. and most rushing yards are accumulated in the 4th qtr after defenses are worn down, do you not realize that?
according to nfl.com the longest runs have came from the 1st and second quarters this year.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:44 PM   #35
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YEAH i realize that, but less runs= less chances to break a big one. and most rushing yards are accumulated in the 4th qtr after defenses are worn down, do you not realize that?


Are you pulling stats from out your ass?
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:45 PM   #36
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YEAH i realize that, but less runs= less chances to break a big one. and most rushing yards are accumulated in the 4th qtr after defenses are worn down, do you not realize that?
That's a huge leap.

Like I said, look at the Tennessee game. They only ran the ball 22 times, but got 10 yards per carry.

If you want to bury your head in the sand and not acknowledge that allowing 2 yards less per carry isn't a significant achievement, go right ahead.

Christ, people here want to claim that the Chiefs run defense is improved over last year, and they are allowing .6 of a yard less per carry from last year.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:47 PM   #37
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People are so hard pressed to take a shit on Haley/Pioli that they're willing to sing the praises of a POS like Pollard. Ridiculous, but expected, from the same ol' nancies.
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:54 PM   #38
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Are you pulling stats from out your ass?
Yep.

I'm not going to spend all day proving him wrong, but here's what I've found about the Top 5's 4th quarter stats:

Benson: Least yards in 4th quarter compared to 1st-3rd.

AP: Most rushing yards in 4th.

Jackson: Least yards in 4th quarter.

T. Jones: 2nd lowest compared to 1st-3rd.

C. Johnson: Least yards in 4th quarter.


So, 1 out of the top 5 rushers have more yardage in the 4th quarter than any of the previous 3 quarters on the year - and 3 of them have their lowest totals in the 4th quarter.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:03 PM   #39
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could also be that those teams havent TRIED to run the ball
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People are so hard pressed to take a shit on Haley/Pioli that they're willing to sing the praises of a POS like Pollard. Ridiculous, but expected, from the same ol' nancies.
No one's "hard pressed". No one has to "try". No one has to make an emergency run to the munitions cache either.
There's no shortage of ammunition necessary to fire rounds at the Great Haoli; their combined FAIL stretches to the heavens on it's very own.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:16 PM   #40
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People are so hard pressed to take a shit on Haley/Pioli that they're willing to sing the praises of a POS like Pollard. Ridiculous, but expected, from the same ol' nancies.
Yeah, those Texans fans really have it out for Haoli.

You've been a mindless apologist for those guys from day 1, why would I expect you to actually examine this decision rationally?

It was stupid when it was made, it's proven stupid now.

But hey, at least we held on to Mike MFing Brown.

I'll just go ahead and stand behind everything I said here:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...18#post6077118

This was a dumb move by a lazy coach/front office.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:20 PM   #41
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People are so hard pressed to take a shit on Haley/Pioli that they're willing to sing the praises of a POS like Pollard. Ridiculous, but expected, from the same ol' nancies.
The people on this board, overall, have very little room to criticize Haley and Pioli for getting rid of Pollard, as most thought he was garbage.

I did not think he was garbage. In fact, I thought he was a good player that made a difference. I still do.

That is why it doesn't surprise me that he is playing well for the Texans.

I am not criticizing Haley or Pioli for getting rid of him. I don't understand it, but I know the Chiefs need a change of culture, and maybe that is why he was let go.

Fans talked about him not having a job for a couple weeks. What they didn't understand was that he was selecting the best offer for him. He wasn't desperate. He wanted to go to a decent team that he could start on.

He got his wish, and has played very well.
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Yeah, those Texans fans really have it out for Haoli.

You've been a mindless apologist for those guys from day 1, why would I expect you to actually examine this decision rationally?

It was stupid when it was made, it's proven stupid now.

But hey, at least we held on to Mike MFing Brown.
You don't need three seasons to asses a dumb, detrimental move today. You don't need three seasons to observe play calling. And you don't need three seasons to observe someones methods and attitudes either.

Some things do NOT require a "wait and see" mentality/approach.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:26 PM   #43
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The people on this board, overall, have very little room to criticize Haley and Pioli for getting rid of Pollard, as most thought he was garbage.

I did not think he was garbage. In fact, I thought he was a good player that made a difference. I still do.

That is why it doesn't surprise me that he is playing well for the Texans.

I am not criticizing Haley or Pioli for getting rid of him. I don't understand it, but I know the Chiefs need a change of culture, and maybe that is why he was let go.

Fans talked about him not having a job for a couple weeks. What they didn't understand was that he was selecting the best offer for him. He wasn't desperate. He wanted to go to a decent team that he could start on.

He got his wish, and has played very well.
it had to do with the date that teams could sign him to any contract they wanted, if he was signed before said date his salary had to be guaranteed.

this may not be 100% accurate, but it is the reason they gave for not signing him earlier.
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Does no one rember the shoulder bombs with no wrapping up he would lay on TE's and WR's they would bounce back five yards and continue to run for huge gains???? This guy had the tackilng ability of Def Lepperds drummer?!?
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