****Official Kansas @ Kansas State Game Thread****

[kstater]

11:30 Versus

[luv]

Not reading back very far, but since I see people talking about basketball, I'm assuming KU lost?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kstater

Actually it's feasible that the Big 12 gets enough teams eligible to have all the tie ins taken and still have a team not get a bowl. IMO KU is the odd team out.

Even if your opinion was valid, there are 3 games remaining, and KU is facing 2 teams that they will be in competition with for those spots. Which is why I said the final game would likely be important for their bowl eligibility.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

27-26 now, evidently.

Wow, are you always this slow?

[luv]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KU had 7 wins last year and easily got into a bowl game. Stop making yourself look stupid.

I'd say quit making yourself look like an asshole, but I know you can't help it.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Congrats Cat fans. What a disapointing season this is turning into.
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[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by notorious

There were a shitload of bandwagon KSU fans, too.

KU has had more then one winning season, FWIW.


As a KSU fan, I am glad that the Cats are doing well, but please don't skew the facts of other teams.

Notorious I appreciate you seeming to be a good person, a level headed fair guy, and a K State fan but I was being objective and wasn't skewing any facts. You may need to check your facts bud. KU has had one winning Big 12 season under Mangino. It was 2007 and they went 7-1. Given that FACT I think it's fair to talk about him being on the hot seat and calling that season an aberration. Given their previous record before 2007 and then failing to have a winning conference record the subsequent year the 2007 season much like the Royals in 2003 would be the most appropriately defined as an aberration. That is a non-bias factual observation.
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[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by luv

I'd say quit making yourself look like an asshole, but I know you can't help it.

Using logic equates to being an asshole now?

7 win (and even 6 win) teams in the Big 12 generally make bowl games...I didn't think that was too difficult to understand.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by notorious

Unfortunately for KU, this may be their last chance a being a good team for a few years. I don't see a ton of talent coming up in the most important position: QB.

They go back to having an easy schedule next year. They'll be alright for that reason most of all.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by GoHuge39

Notorious I appreciate you seeming to be a good person, a level headed fair guy, and a K State fan but I was being objective and wasn't skewing any facts. You may need to check your facts bud. KU has had one winning Big 12 season under Mangino. It was 2007 and they went 7-1. Given that FACT I think it's fair to talk about him being on the hot seat and calling that season an aberration. Given their previous record before 2007 and then failing to have a winning conference record the subsequent year the 2007 season much like the Royals in 2003 would be the most appropriately defined as an aberration. That is a non-bias factual observation.
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Maybe you should look at what the KU program was like before Mangino came here.

[kstater]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Maybe you should look at what the KU program was like before Mangino came here.

At the bottom of the conference? How's that different than this year?

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Chase didn't look this bad, and he still put up a 72% completion rate, 4,335 yards and 39 TDs, which is still amazing numbers. Reesing currently only has a 64% completion rate, only has 2,400 yds and 16 TDs. And his team will not win 10 games and the Big 12 North.

Agree, comparing Reesing's senior season so far to Daniel's senior season is laughable.

Daniel had more passing yards, more TDs, and a better completion rate his senior year than he did in his junior year, and he led his team to another Big 12 North title.

Meanwhile, Reesing is on pace to have less yards, a worst completion percentage, less TDs, and more INTs than last year, all while leading ku to a complete collapse of a season when they were predicted to win the North.

[ArrowheadHawk]

It may be time for Lew to bring in his own guy.
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[chiefqueen]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

KU had 7 wins last year and easily got into a bowl game. Stop making yourself look stupid.

I believe the big 12 did not have enough teams gain bowl eligibility last year (thanks to K-State losing to Fresno State on the last weekend) so whether KU had 6 or 7 wins was moot as the Big XII could not fill all of its slots.

That appears not to be the case this year as the Big 12 has 10 teams with 5+ wins. The only rule about bowl selection is that no 6 win teams may be selected before all 7+ win teams have received bowl invites. My point is that there may be more Big 12 teams with 7+ wins than bowls with Big XII ties. (The bowls have contracts with confrences.)

I know the chances of this happening is small and for it to happen, certain games would have to break a certain way. (K-State for example would need to lose to Mizzou but beat Neb. Neb. would need to beat OU & Colo. but lose to K-State.

[GoHuge]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

They go back to having an easy schedule next year. They'll be alright for that reason most of all.

Yeah I'm sure their 1-4 conference record is purely a product of their schedule. Less talent and a rookie QB next year......to the ship! Ah derr
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[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by kstater

At the bottom of the conference? How's that different than this year?

So you are suggesting they fire him 2 years after going to the Orange Bowl? Even though, their recruiting has gotten much better, and they've been winning more games than ever before. Do you have any idea how nonsensical that is?