Pollard didnt like being cursed out.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Belichick has won more than 1 game as a head coach.

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

You can still be a disciplinarian and not be an inveterate one who sucks the penis. It's not that hard to comprehend. Firm, but fair.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You can still be a disciplinarian and not be an inveterate one who sucks the penis. It's not that hard to comprehend. Firm, but fair.

And again, how do we know Haley isn't fair? Because Bernard Pollard in training camp said so?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And again, how do we know Haley isn't fair? Because Bernard Pollard in training camp said so?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

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[jspchief]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

This place definitely needs a culture change. I'm just not convinced Haley's approach is gonna work. The team needs to be built. We're not talking about a group of underachievers that need their fires stoked.

As for what was happening when Marty came in, I don't know. I didn't frequent football message boards in 1989.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jspchief

This place definitely needs a culture change. I'm just not convinced Haley's approach is gonna work. The team needs to be built. We're not talking about a group of underachievers that need their fires stoked.

As for what was happening when Marty came in, I don't know. I didn't frequent football message boards in 1989.

This is the same argument that happens every time a 'mean' guy gets a coaching job. People like to pretend that guys like Parcells, Belichick, Coughlin and Cowher don't exist, or they try to trot out "Yeah, but..." arguments.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

This is the same argument that happens every time a 'mean' guy gets a coaching job. People like to pretend that guys like Parcells, Belichick, Coughlin and Cowher don't exist, or they try to trot out "Yeah, but..." arguments.

Yea, those are the examples of the guys that succeeded with the approach. Wonder if there are any coaches that acted that way and never got the results to get their players to buy into it.

I'm sorry, but I've yet to see much reason to mention Haley's name with the likes of Parcells and company.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by jspchief

Yea, those are the examples of the guys that succeeded with the approach. Wonder if there are any coaches that acted that way and never got the results to get their players to buy into it.

I'm sorry, but I've yet to see much reason to mention Haley's name with the likes of Parcells and company.

Wait... are you saying that a rookie coach with a terrible team hasn't set the world on fire?

That's never happened with a "player's coach"!

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

What approach should he have used here?

Herm tried the fatherly figure. Didn't work.

Dick tried the loving grandfather angle. Didn't work.

How can you change a culture in a place that has needed a change for 10 years without being an asshole?

Marty was a real asshole when he came here in 1989, but no one was freaking out about it.

Many of the players cried like little bitches when Marty arrived. Albert Lewis hated Carl from day 1.
Of course, two years prior to Marty's arrival the players had a meeting and threatened a mutiny if they didn't keep the fighter pilot. Look what that got us.

Good luck, 'Nard. I think you suck but if you need to be hugged, I hope that eases the sting of being a marginal player.