Chiefs Why you should be scared... - Page 7

jwhit · 11-08-2009, 05:01 PM

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

Psyko Tek · 11-08-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jwhit

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

**** the shut up

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:17 PM

Cassel isn't forcing it to Bowe, and Gonzalez isn't here to open it up for Bowe anymore.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:19 PM

Maybe he should be because all they do now is go 3 and out because he just throws 2 yard passes to guys who are scrubs.

booger · 11-08-2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

OC candidates for next year?

Weiss(check the Bad Guy Thread.

Panthers OC (if Fox gets fired) Jeff Davidson, an ex pat coach TE's i think.

Mo Carthon as OC/run game coord. w/ Haley still calling plays.
Same with Joel Collier who's title is Asst. GM but moved to qb coach when gailey got canned.

Just a few off the top of my head.

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:20 PM

I think Haley could be a great HC. I also think he screwed up firing the OC and is in over his head now. I'll wait to see what the do in the offseason staffing wise to evaluate. If he puts his ego aside and hands the rains off and brings in the proper coaches to succeed I think everything will work out fine.

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Weiss(check the Bad Guy Thread.

Panthers OC (if Fox gets fired) Jeff Davidson, an ex pat coach TE's i think.

Mo Carthon as OC/run game coord. w/ Haley still calling plays.
Same with Joel Collier who's title is Asst. GM but moved to qb coach when gailey got canned.

Just a few off the top of my head.

Collier has a defensive background I thought, shoot myself if its Carthon, I don't think Weis would be bad, and Davidson I don't know about.

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Not calling you out, but I am curious who you guys see as OC candidates for next year?

I don't know who will be available. No clue.

But I know that I'd like to avoid more Hoodie disciples who have floundered away from the teat.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:23 PM

Why do I think Todd Haley will flip out if they try to take the playcalling from him...

JD10367 · 11-08-2009, 06:25 PM

Last year:
1. Lost to NE by 7. Close game.
2. Blown out by Raiders by 15.
3. Blown out by Falcons by 24.
WIN vs. Denver
5. Blown out by Carolina (34-0).
6. Blown out by Titans by 24.
7. Lost to Jets by 4. Close game.
8. Lost in OT to Tampa by 3. Close game.
9. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
10. Lost to NO by 10.
11. Blown out by Bills by 23.
WIN vs. Oakland
13. Lost to Denver by 7.
14. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
15. Lost to Miami by 7.
16. Lost to Cincy by 10.

2 wins, 5 close games. Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

This year:
1. Lost to Baltimore by 14.
2. Lost to Oakland by 3. Close game.
3. Blown out by Philly by 20.
4. Lost to Giants by 11.
5. Lost to Dallas by 6 in OT. Close game.
6. WIN vs. Washington.
7. Blown out by SD by 20.
8. Lost to Jacksonville by 3. Close game.

Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

They weren't that bad last year. They're not that bad this year.

Patience, Grasshopper.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2009, 06:26 PM

Whitlock with a whole lot of heresay as usual.

We get it. You have an agenda. You don't like the way Haley and Pioli do things. However, your track record of backing players, and coaches, why is anyone putting any stock in your opinion?

It's amazing how some of you, who flame Whitlock's posts, are lining up to perform message board hummers on him because he posts on here.

Knowing you hate Pioli and Haley is almost enough for me to rally behind them.

Did Jeff George, Ty Law, or Chester McGlockton ever give you any kickbacks?

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Why do I think Todd Haley will flip out if they try to take the playcalling from him...

I think he'd flip out if they just told him that it's not an option, but I think he's already decided he doesn't want to do it next year. It's just too much work for a guy that is just learning the job.

I really think Haley will be a good coach. I think he's learning, and I've expected all of this. I hated this hire when it went down, but I do like some of the tactics he's taking.

I know I'm in the minority on this but I love the fact that he's cussing guys out. ****ing perform. And if you can't, get the **** out. When he has guys that will perform, he'll stop yelling and cussing.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:27 PM

JD is being nice the Giants game was a blowout...and the Ravens one was a borderline blowout.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

I think he'd flip out if they just told him that it's not an option, but I think he's already decided he doesn't want to do it next year. It's just too much work for a guy that is just learning the job.

I really think Haley will be a good coach. I think he's learning, and I've expected all of this. I hated this hire when it went down, but I do like some of the tactics he's taking.

I know I'm in the minority on this but I love the fact that he's cussing guys out. ****ing perform. And if you can't, get the **** out. When he has guys that will perform, he'll stop yelling and cussing.

He makes horrendous gameday decisions...worse than Herm decisions.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-08-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Last year:
1. Lost to NE by 7. Close game.
2. Blown out by Raiders by 15.
3. Blown out by Falcons by 24.
WIN vs. Denver
5. Blown out by Carolina (34-0).
6. Blown out by Titans by 24.
7. Lost to Jets by 4. Close game.
8. Lost in OT to Tampa by 3. Close game.
9. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
10. Lost to NO by 10.
11. Blown out by Bills by 23.
WIN vs. Oakland
13. Lost to Denver by 7.
14. Lost to SD by 1. Close game.
15. Lost to Miami by 7.
16. Lost to Cincy by 10.

2 wins, 5 close games. Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

This year:
1. Lost to Baltimore by 14.
2. Lost to Oakland by 3. Close game.
3. Blown out by Philly by 20.
4. Lost to Giants by 11.
5. Lost to Dallas by 6 in OT. Close game.
6. WIN vs. Washington.
7. Blown out by SD by 20.
8. Lost to Jacksonville by 3. Close game.

Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games.

They weren't that bad last year. They're not that bad this year.

Patience, Grasshopper.

Jacksonville really wasn't close. They got hot in the last 3 minutes of a game against a team that had stopped playing. Cassell hit a lucky ass throw compared to what he'd done the rest of the day to Chris Chambers and then Succoup aimed for the pork chop on the Charlie Brown special onside kick. They looked like dog shit all day long.

I love the Chiefs. I care about the games every Sunday regardless of their record. I've been optimistic about them and I will continue to be. But let's face it, the fun in watching a rebuild is seeing the weekly progress on the field. Where's it at?

RustShack · 11-08-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

He makes horrendous gameday decisions...worse than Herm decisions.

I don't think they are worse than Herms at all. Especially the Pre-Thigpen/Gailey/Gimmick Herm.

11-08-2009, 05:01 PM
jwhit Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $9994990	Why you should be scared... Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games. Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster. Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there. Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games. 22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.
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11-08-2009, 06:17 PM	#92
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3126954	Cassel isn't forcing it to Bowe, and Gonzalez isn't here to open it up for Bowe anymore. __________________
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11-08-2009, 06:19 PM	#93
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	Maybe he should be because all they do now is go 3 and out because he just throws 2 yard passes to guys who are scrubs.
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11-08-2009, 06:20 PM	#95
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $3126954	I think Haley could be a great HC. I also think he screwed up firing the OC and is in over his head now. I'll wait to see what the do in the offseason staffing wise to evaluate. If he puts his ego aside and hands the rains off and brings in the proper coaches to succeed I think everything will work out fine. __________________
Posts: 15,119

11-08-2009, 06:23 PM	#98
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	Why do I think Todd Haley will flip out if they try to take the playcalling from him...
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11-08-2009, 06:25 PM	#99
JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	Last year: 1. Lost to NE by 7. Close game. 2. Blown out by Raiders by 15. 3. Blown out by Falcons by 24. WIN vs. Denver 5. Blown out by Carolina (34-0). 6. Blown out by Titans by 24. 7. Lost to Jets by 4. Close game. 8. Lost in OT to Tampa by 3. Close game. 9. Lost to SD by 1. Close game. 10. Lost to NO by 10. 11. Blown out by Bills by 23. WIN vs. Oakland 13. Lost to Denver by 7. 14. Lost to SD by 1. Close game. 15. Lost to Miami by 7. 16. Lost to Cincy by 10. 2 wins, 5 close games. Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games. This year: 1. Lost to Baltimore by 14. 2. Lost to Oakland by 3. Close game. 3. Blown out by Philly by 20. 4. Lost to Giants by 11. 5. Lost to Dallas by 6 in OT. Close game. 6. WIN vs. Washington. 7. Blown out by SD by 20. 8. Lost to Jacksonville by 3. Close game. Through 8 games? 1 win, 3 close games. They weren't that bad last year. They're not that bad this year. Patience, Grasshopper.
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11-08-2009, 06:26 PM	#100
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Whitlock with a whole lot of heresay as usual. We get it. You have an agenda. You don't like the way Haley and Pioli do things. However, your track record of backing players, and coaches, why is anyone putting any stock in your opinion? It's amazing how some of you, who flame Whitlock's posts, are lining up to perform message board hummers on him because he posts on here. Knowing you hate Pioli and Haley is almost enough for me to rally behind them. Did Jeff George, Ty Law, or Chester McGlockton ever give you any kickbacks? __________________
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11-08-2009, 06:27 PM	#102
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-512950	JD is being nice the Giants game was a blowout...and the Ravens one was a borderline blowout.
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