Chiefs Why you should be scared... - Page 11

jwhit · 11-08-2009, 05:01 PM

Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games.

Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster.

Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there.

Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games.

22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.

WildTurkey · 11-08-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I think they could definitely win those two games.

I bet you didn't think they would hold MJD under 100 yards today...

Progress.

I agree..... I would think they would have a chance against Buffalo as well

booger · 11-08-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I think they could definitely win those two games.

I bet you didn't think they would hold MJD under 100 yards today...

Progress.

T. Jackson led the team w/7 tackles.

|Zach| · 11-08-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

eh...Rome wasnt built in a day. Im willing to give Pioli more time. Im disappointed in the teams improvement, but I think much of that has to do with the OL's problems.

I 100% agree with this post.

Offenses and QBs thrive on rhythm. You have to allow for that to happen. People have been frustrated with our QB because there have been times throws don't go well when he is allowed time in the pocket but you have to consistently give a guy a chance to succeed. Obviously these are numbers just to make a point but our fans seem to think if on 10 pass plays our QB is given a good chance to throw to an open receiver on 1 of them and he doesn't they go ape shit. Seems fair on the surface but in my mind those 9 times where he wasn't put in a position to succeed greatly reduce the odds of success on that play where he gets a chance.

The windows of success are so few and far in between that there is no chance for rhythm...

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I think they could definitely win those two games.

I bet you didn't think they would hold MJD under 100 yards today...

Progress.

97 yards and a touch, with about 37 yards of receiving? Yeah, we were on lock. Sadly, though, this is progress.

But I bet you didn't expect Sims-Walker to go for 147 and a TD.

Hootie · 11-08-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

97 yards and a touch, with about 37 yards of receiving? Yeah, we were on lock. Sadly, though, this is progress.

But I bet you didn't expect Sims-Walker to go for 147 and a TD.

I expected both of these things.

Teams don't beat us with the run, they beat us with the pass.

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

I expected both of these things.

Teams don't beat us with the run, they beat us with the pass.

Dude, they beat our defense any way they want.

WildTurkey · 11-08-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

I expected both of these things.

Teams don't beat us with the run, they beat us with the pass.

yeah especially with Grandpa Brown patrolling the field

Hootie · 11-08-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Dude, they beat our defense any way they want.

MJD really wasn't that great today...he had 30 friggin' carries...

we lost because of the pass and the inability to make stops on 3rd down

and the fact that we just flat out suck offensively...

oh wait it's 3rd and 19 again

Hammock Parties · 11-08-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

97 yards and a touch, with about 37 yards of receiving? Yeah, we were on lock. Sadly, though, this is progress.

The Jags had the ball for 40 minutes.

I'm pretty shocked MJD averaged less than 4 YPC and didn't hit 100 yards.

They did a great job against the run other than one play in the first quarter.

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

MJD really wasn't that great today...he had 30 friggin' carries...

we lost because of the pass and the inability to make stops on 3rd down

and the fact that we just flat out suck offensively...

oh wait it's 3rd and 19 again

I agree that MJD didn't embarrass us, but he still was pretty damn effective, frequently moving the pile up the middle.

Both rushing TDs were ****ing embarrassments.

|Zach| · 11-08-2009, 07:32 PM

I think the nature of that last rushing touchdown and the yards after contact are souring people's perceptions of how the Chiefs did against the run. On paper it wasn't that bad. It was facepalm worthy at times though.

stevieray · 11-08-2009, 07:32 PM

jwhit...when you used the phrase hellhole in conjunction with Vraebel, was it from his POV for effect, or is that how KC and Chiefs are perceived around the league? both?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-08-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

The Jags had the ball for 40 minutes.

I'm pretty shocked MJD averaged less than 4 YPC and didn't hit 100 yards.

They did a great job against the run other than one play in the first quarter.

Oh, well shit.

Let's just petition the league to strike that run from the stat sheet, and we can all sit around and talk progress.

173 yards rushing, 4.2 per carry, and 2 TD's.

Hammock Parties · 11-08-2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree that MJD didn't embarrass us, but he still was pretty damn effective, frequently moving the pile up the middle.

Both rushing TDs were ****ing embarrassments.

The defense kept the Chiefs in the game until very very late in the fourth quarter.

If the offense had bothered to show up before garbage time...

**DeezNutz** · 11-08-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

They did a great job against the run other than one play in the first quarter.

Welcome back, Vermeil.

11-08-2009, 05:01 PM
jwhit Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $9994990	Why you should be scared... Pioli and Haley thought this team would be competitive. They thought we had a shot at winning eight games. Everyone wants to talk about how bad the roster is and how we have to cut them slack because they're digging out from Peterson and Herm's mess. This is no different from the last Chiefs team. Peterson and Herm thought that roster was capable of being competitive. They thought we could win six or seven with last year's roster. Pioli and Haley thought we could win eight or more with what they've put out there. Do they know what it takes to win football games? It takes players. Not signs or media policies or Pentagon-like security or secrets or cursing at the players. Players win football games. 22 guys off the street could win two games. We're halfway home and the Chiefs have one victory.
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\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $3186768	I think the nature of that last rushing touchdown and the yards after contact are souring people's perceptions of how the Chiefs did against the run. On paper it wasn't that bad. It was facepalm worthy at times though.
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stevieray Most things I worry about… Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $-1104727	jwhit...when you used the phrase hellhole in conjunction with Vraebel, was it from his POV for effect, or is that how KC and Chiefs are perceived around the league? both?
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