Chiefs What position do we need the most in the first round?

TheGuardian · 11-08-2009, 07:50 PM

I went back and read it. And I find myself agreeing with Mecca again many times on the same day. I expect the apocalypse any minute.

You flat out do not need to take offensive linemen early to build a good line. Second, we flat out HAVE to address the line in free agency. I don't really want to address the line through the draft until after the 1st round.

Mike Brown is killing the defense all by himself. Morgan didn't embarrass himself today and I'm interested to see if his play improves throughout the season.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-08-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I went back and read it. And I find myself agreeing with Mecca again many times on the same day. I expect the apocalypse any minute.

You flat out do not need to take offensive linemen early to build a good line. Second, we flat out HAVE to address the line in free agency. I don't really want to address the line through the draft until after the 1st round.

Mike Brown is killing the defense all by himself. Morgan didn't embarrass himself today and I'm interested to see if his play improves throughout the season.

I don't know how you couldn't be optimistic about Morgan's play today. He didn't have any Ed Reed-type plays, but he did his job, and did it well.

Give the guy time to mature (he's got loads of raw talent) and you may end up with a hell of a player.

TheGuardian · 11-08-2009, 09:02 PM

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I don't know how you couldn't be optimistic about Morgan's play today. He didn't have any Ed Reed-type plays, but he did his job, and did it well.

Give the guy time to mature (he's got loads of raw talent) and you may end up with a hell of a player.

Now Hamas and I are agreeing. I should buy a lotto ticket this week. But I agree, I watched him closely and he def did not embarrass himself today and as you noted, while didn't make any Ed Reed type plays looked pretty solid.

Seriously, why don't some of you who think we need to go o-line in round 1 take a look at some of the best lines in the league and tell me where their interior guys were taken?

Albert will be fine at left tackle. When he learns how to use his hands properly and gets used to his current weight his play will improve. Second, if we don't address some of the line in FA it won't matter anyway. A line full of rookies will get its nuts kicked in all season. You can't field an offensive line with Albert and a bunch of rookies and expect anything except disaster. It's reeruned.

The entire right side needs to be replaced and look for a Waters replacement in the draft. But we should be replacing C to Right tackle with free agents who are coming into their prime IMO. They don't have to be all-pros just upgrades.

Shox · 11-08-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I went back and read it. And I find myself agreeing with Mecca again many times on the same day. I expect the apocalypse any minute.

You flat out do not need to take offensive linemen early to build a good line. Second, we flat out HAVE to address the line in free agency. I don't really want to address the line through the draft until after the 1st round.

Mike Brown is killing the defense all by himself. Morgan didn't embarrass himself today and I'm interested to see if his play improves throughout the season.

You can get any postion at any point in the draft. Look at Colston undrafted WR. The farther down the draft the high chance of getting a miss. We need on LT that can play from day 1 not grow into the position.

LT for reasons already stated is the only choice to make.
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TheGuardian · 11-08-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

You can get any postion at any point in the draft. Look at Colston undrafted WR. The farther down the draft the high chance of getting a miss. We need on LT that can play from day 1 not grow into the position.

LT for reasons already stated is the only choice to make.
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Colston was a 7th rounder.

We don't need to take a left tackle. OMG that would be epic failure. Albert will be fine. He's having a rough year this year. He'll be fine. Jake long is struggling as did Joe Thomas his 2nd year. It's not uncommon.

People thinking we need to take a left tackle in the first round need to take the bag off of their head.

Mecca · 11-08-2009, 07:57 PM

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Colston was a 7th rounder.

We don't need to take a left tackle. OMG that would be epic failure. Albert will be fine. He's having a rough year this year. He'll be fine. Jake long is struggling as did Joe Thomas his 2nd year. It's not uncommon.

People thinking we need to take a left tackle in the first round need to take the bag off of their head.

Not to mention there isn't an elite LT prospect...Russell Okung really? Anyone that watches him and thinks he's an elite prospect well I don't know what they're looking at.

milkman · 11-08-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

You can get any postion at any point in the draft. Look at Colston undrafted WR. The farther down the draft the high chance of getting a miss. We need on LT that can play from day 1 not grow into the position.

LT for reasons already stated is the only choice to make.
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So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

ChiefsCountry · 11-08-2009, 07:58 PM

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So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

Heck freaking MU made Okung look bad.

Shox · 11-08-2009, 08:00 PM

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So let's take Russel Okung, who by the way is slow of foot, and only looks like a first round pick because he plays in a spread and doesn't have to hold blocks.

I can't even begin to say how awkward and slow he looked against Texaz, falling on his ass more than a couple of times when he missed blocks cause he was to slow to get a body on a quick Texas defender.

I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Mecca · 11-08-2009, 08:02 PM

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I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Yea there's not I pointed it out earlier in the thread...

ChiefsCountry · 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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He is the #1 LT prospect and you wanted to draft a LT.

milkman · 11-08-2009, 08:03 PM

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I never said Okung. I'm assuming a LT with a high 1st round grade is available. If there not a LT worth of a high 1st round then no, take another position.
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Okung is/is going to be the highest rated LT in this draft.

He wouldn't even be among the top 3 or 4 in the last draft.

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TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6335299	I went back and read it. And I find myself agreeing with Mecca again many times on the same day. I expect the apocalypse any minute. You flat out do not need to take offensive linemen early to build a good line. Second, we flat out HAVE to address the line in free agency. I don't really want to address the line through the draft until after the 1st round. Mike Brown is killing the defense all by himself. Morgan didn't embarrass himself today and I'm interested to see if his play improves throughout the season.
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