Chiefs What position do we need the most in the first round? - Page 15

googlegoogle · 11-08-2009, 04:19 PM

Half of you were saying LT.

Is that still true?

Dline?

eazyb81 · 11-09-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Taylor Mays role is very similar to what the Redskins ask of Laron Landry and he has very blah looking stats.

The role is not glamorous but is difficult to play.

Yeah but Landry was a much bigger playmaker in college than Mays has been.

Look I'm not saying Mays is terrible or anything, but I am saying it's kind of dumb to say you want Berry or Mays, because one is pretty much guaranteed to be the highest drafted safety ever and the other is just a good, solid prospect that will get drafted more on his athleticism.

StcChief · 11-09-2009, 07:45 AM

DL,OL,
but a FB or Kicker will likely be taken first.

Mecca · 11-09-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Yeah but Landry was a much bigger playmaker in college than Mays has been.

Look I'm not saying Mays is terrible or anything, but I am saying it's kind of dumb to say you want Berry or Mays, because one is pretty much guaranteed to be the highest drafted safety ever and the other is just a good, solid prospect that will get drafted more on his athleticism.

Well Landry wasn't used that way in college, I mean the way Landry is used now.

I think Mays is a guy who has his best football in front of him, Berry is Berry what you see is what you get so obviously Mays is a bit more risky in projecting but I don't think either guy will bust.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Montana being hurt in the regular season cost us not going to the Super Bowl. It cost us home field which we could have beaten Buffalo at Arrowhead but no way in hell at Rich Stadium.

Also we could have had Dana Stubblefield with that pick. DT and Stubblefield would have made that defensive truly elite.

Did I miss something about Dana Stubblefield? I thought he was a decent player, but an elite one?

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well Landry wasn't used that way in college, I mean the way Landry is used now.

I think Mays is a guy who has his best football in front of him, Berry is Berry what you see is what you get so obviously Mays is a bit more risky in projecting but I don't think either guy will bust.

Well when you are a stud with few flaws, I'll take the what you see is what you get over the guy who CAN be that good.

Chiefless · 11-09-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't argue against guys who are playmakers...who else is there for us to pick?

These are our options, elite safety, OT who isn't worth the pick, there are no rushbackers, another defensive lineman?

Eric Berry is looking like the option.

I actually agree with this. The O-Line is the biggest need, but it sounds like there will not be any player in the top of the first who is worth the pick. Next position of need is the rush backer...ditto. We could go NT, but IIRC Suh is not a true NT. That leaves one of the safeties as the BPA at a position of need. And while I agree with the strategy that the lines need to be built first when you are drafting that high you better get a stud...not just a good player to plug into a hole.

So, mark me down for one of the safeties even tho I feel dirty saying it.

NY CHIEF · 11-09-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

DL,OL,
but a FB or Kicker will likely be taken first.

eazyb81 · 11-09-2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Well Landry wasn't used that way in college, I mean the way Landry is used now.

I think Mays is a guy who has his best football in front of him, Berry is Berry what you see is what you get so obviously Mays is a bit more risky in projecting but I don't think either guy will bust.

Okay, but when "what you see is what you get" is one of the best safety prospects in history, you're going to take that and be happy.

I don't dislike Mays, I think he's a fine player. But I don't see him as a top 10 prospect, and I think it's questionable that so many on here lump him in with Berry.

ChiefsCountry · 11-09-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

And with that elite defense they would have had a shot at the Super Bowl with who at QB?
Posted via Mobile Device

They wouldn't had any, maybe a slim Baltimore Ravens of 2000 shot. Its sad when an old broke dick Montana gave us the best shot at a Super Bowl.

**The Franchise** · 11-09-2009, 01:43 PM

Berry....hands down. Our safties are pretty much garbage at this point in time.

Coogs · 11-09-2009, 01:51 PM

From GBN....

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Right now we are picking in the #2 position...

Bucs win vaults Rams to top of draft table... Tampa Bay, the NFL’s last remaining winless team, finally got off the schneid with a 38-28 win over Green Bay. And when the smoke had cleared from the late Sunday games, St. Louis would have the 1st pick overall were the 2010 draft held today, while Tampa Bay drops all the way down to #5. Meanwhile, Kansas City, Detroit and Cleveland would have the second through the 4th picks respectively, however, there is currently almost no statistical difference between the combined W-L records of the opponents of the latter three teams. As usual, the full, updated weekly draft selection order will be posted after Monday night’s game.

Chiefnj2 · 11-09-2009, 02:47 PM

1st round position KC needs the most - LT, maybe QB, pass rushing, OLB, safety, WR.

Will there be a top 5 talent available to fill that need? Who knows.

GloryDayz · 11-09-2009, 02:47 PM

Head coach.

Brock · 11-09-2009, 02:55 PM

A pass rusher.

Sam Hall · 11-09-2009, 03:07 PM

I like Walter Football's latest mock:

1. Eric Berry
2a. Jason Fox
2b. Evan Royster
3. Marty Gilyard

11-08-2009, 04:19 PM
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