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Old 11-11-2009, 09:28 AM   #1
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I also want to make a special thanks to the 'Nam era guys. A mission as difficult and unpopular as the one they were given---and then to be treated like dogs when they came home--- that is a wrong that can never be righted... to you men, an extra large thank you.
Seems like alot of Vietnam guys keep there service in silence. My dad did, my mothers husband does.
IMO they got shit on so long they pretty much said **** you & **** it all.
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Old 11-11-2009, 09:45 AM   #2
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Seems like alot of Vietnam guys keep there service in silence. My dad did, my mothers husband does.
IMO they got shit on so long they pretty much said **** you & **** it all.
Somewhere in the middle might be appropriate. We were hated then, and now it is just the opposite.

I cashed every check uncle sam gave me, he trained me in a technical profession that has served me well for 36 years since.
He also took a 18 year old punk, and turned him into a man, and taught me how to drink and smoke.
I thank the taxpayers that footed that bill.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:34 AM   #3
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Somewhere in the middle might be appropriate. We were hated then, and now it is just the opposite.

I cashed every check uncle sam gave me, he trained me in a technical profession that has served me well for 36 years since.
He also took a 18 year old punk, and turned him into a man, and taught me how to drink and smoke.
I thank the taxpayers that footed that bill.
made my old man a deadeye. air assault and humpin a m-60 for a year will do that.
A memory from my childhood.
He had an old singleshot breach action slug shotgun. it was spring and calves were hittin the ground. he come runnin(walkin fast) into the house grabs the shotgun heads out towards the barn, cuts north to the top of the ridge and down below in the draw theres a pack of dogs running a baby calf.
These dogs are at a dead run. Rolls the 1st dog, reloads and rolls the second one, the third dog cuts to run off and he rolls it. this happened in under 30 seconds from 100+ yards away. He killed em last to first.
Deadeye.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:57 AM   #4
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made my old man a deadeye. air assault and humpin a m-60 for a year will do that.
A memory from my childhood.
He had an old singleshot breach action slug shotgun. it was spring and calves were hittin the ground. he come runnin(walkin fast) into the house grabs the shotgun heads out towards the barn, cuts north to the top of the ridge and down below in the draw theres a pack of dogs running a baby calf.
These dogs are at a dead run. Rolls the 1st dog, reloads and rolls the second one, the third dog cuts to run off and he rolls it. this happened in under 30 seconds from 100+ yards away. He killed em last to first.
Deadeye.
Damn, that is a cool story, thanks for sharing it. He sounds like he was a true marksman.

Most of my actual shooting experience was almost laughable, since I was in the Search and Rescue end of it.

I was an E-5, and they sent a bunch of us out to shoot this big ass machine gun, M-50 IIRC. They assumed, since I was senior, that I knew how to shoot the thing, so I figured it out. We really tore some shit up, and it is probably why I am hard of hearing to this day.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:12 AM   #5
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Seems like alot of Vietnam guys keep there service in silence. My dad did, my mothers husband does.
IMO they got shit on so long they pretty much said **** you & **** it all.
Yep that will be one of the ever lasting mistakes of the American public, blaming soldiers for the politics that they had no control over. But since then in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Iraq and so on the Americans have seen their mistake and have not repeated it. Supporting our soldiers in war and when they return to us after their service and sacrifice is our duty as Americans and has nothing whatsoever to do with politics.

I was in grade school but as Americans we still must deal with that legacy. So a special shout out to the Vietnam era veterans. Thank for your service and sacrifice!
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:36 AM   #6
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Yep that will be one of the ever lasting mistakes of the American public, blaming soldiers for the politics that they had no control over. But since then in Desert Storm, Afghanistan, Iraq and so on the Americans have seen their mistake and have not repeated it. Supporting our soldiers in war and when they return to us after their service and sacrifice is our duty as Americans and has nothing whatsoever to do with politics.

I was in grade school but as Americans we still must deal with that legacy. So a special shout out to the Vietnam era veterans. Thank for your service and sacrifice!
you could hear the resentment in his voice when he said ' we didnt get any parade'.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:49 AM   #7
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you could hear the resentment in his voice when he said ' we didnt get any parade'.
And well earned resentment. It was a disgrace.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:35 AM   #8
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And well earned resentment. It was a disgrace.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:21 PM   #9
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Seems like alot of Vietnam guys keep there service in silence. My dad did, my mothers husband does.
IMO they got shit on so long they pretty much said **** you & **** it all.
I work with a purchasing agent that is a ‘Nam vet, Staff Sargent Infantry. Worked with him for over 6 years before I ever knew he was a vet. Then one day he drops a couple of stories on an old crusty engineer and myself that left us both slack jawed and stunned.
Great guy, haven’t heard much about his service since that day, and no one else around even knows he’s a vet.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:37 PM   #10
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I work with a purchasing agent that is a ‘Nam vet, Staff Sargent Infantry. Worked with him for over 6 years before I ever knew he was a vet. Then one day he drops a couple of stories on an old crusty engineer and myself that left us both slack jawed and stunned.
Great guy, haven’t heard much about his service since that day, and no one else around even knows he’s a vet.
My old man was there and you'll never hear a word about it, he tries to act like it never happened.
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My old man was there and you'll never hear a word about it, he tries to act like it never happened.
Sadly that kind of story is the norm more than the exception.
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Old 11-11-2009, 04:20 PM   #12
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Sadly that kind of story is the norm more than the exception.
Sure makes spotting the fake ‘Nam combat vets easy.
They’re typically the ones running their mouths about what all they did over there.
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:23 PM   #13
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Sure makes spotting the fake ‘Nam combat vets easy.
They’re typically the ones running their mouths about what all they did over there.
I work with a guy who was there. He doesn't say a lot about it but when he does, it's said just as matter-of -factly as it would be about anything else that happened in his life 35+ years ago. I get the impression that this guy's not ****ed up about the experience at all.

And I thanked him for his service today, just as I now thank all the veterans here for theirs.
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