This is what happens when you draft good football players...

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Did anyone else see this stat on the Monday night game? I saw it, pondered it in amazement, and then became severely depressed by the Chiefs' draft-picking ineptitude. Here is the Pittsburgh Steelers 1st round draft history over the past few years:

2009: Ziggy Hood
2008: Rashard Mendenhall
2007: Lawrence Timmons
2006: Santonio Holmes
2005: Heath Miller
2004: Ben Roethlisberger
2003: Troy Polamalu

How can a team have this many great players drafted in consecutive years? Is it superior talent evaluation? Is it superior coaching? Is it luck?

[kaplin42]

Chiefs Draft since 2003. I am aware some draft picks were traded for players. But this is just about the Chiefs ability to evaluate talent in the draft.




57 Total picks.

20/57 of them are still on the team for a whopping 35% "success" rate.

13/20 are picks from the last two drafts.

9/20 are starters.

7/9 were 1st or 2nd round picks. Keep in mind, in the last five drafts we have had nine 1st and 2nd round picks.

As a side note none of the draft picks from 2000-2004 are still on the team. Thats 36 draft picks that have had no long term impact on the team, and were basically wasted.

So tell me again how we have talent on this team.

[DaneMcCloud]

The bad thing is that this defense would look pretty good right now with Mitchell, Fujita, Fox and DJ as the backers, Tank, Turk & Allen along with Pollard, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr and Morgan.

Oh, and a ****ING COMPETENT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!!!!!!

[chiefs1111]

wow,no one from the 2004 draft is on the team anymore.

[Pioli Zombie]

But I thought the Steelers OL was as bad as the Chiefs?
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[chiefs1111]

From the last 3 Dick V. drafts there is a total of two players still on the team. That is really awful.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

Chiefs Draft since 2003. I am aware some draft picks were traded for players. But this is just about the Chiefs ability to evaluate talent in the draft.




57 Total picks.

20/57 of them are still on the team for a whopping 35% "success" rate.

13/20 are picks from the last two drafts.

9/20 are starters.

7/9 were 1st or 2nd round picks. Keep in mind, in the last five drafts we have had nine 1st and 2nd round picks.

As a side note none of the draft picks from 2000-2004 are still on the team. Thats 36 draft picks that have had no long term impact on the team, and were basically wasted.

So tell me again how we have talent on this team.

The above is why I am amazed that everyone gets so worked up about the draft. I used to, but soon realized that when they just **** it up year after year after year... what is the point?

[Cannibal]

Not only that, but hoping the Chiefs lose as many games as possible to get high draft pick? Then they **** that up to.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by chiefs1111

From the last 3 Dick V. drafts there is a total of two players still on the team. That is really awful.

And one of them won't be here in 2010.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The bad thing is that this defense would look pretty good right now with Mitchell, Fujita, Fox and DJ as the backers, Tank, Turk & Allen along with Pollard, Dorsey, Flowers, Carr and Morgan.

Oh, and a ****ING COMPETENT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!!!!!!

Ive have said this very same thing at least three times and it is spot on.

Why wasn't Jim Haslett considered for DC? Anyone have insider info on why?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And one of them won't be here in 2010.

and the other is a punter that was gotten with a comp pick

[kaplin42]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And one of them won't be here in 2010.

I suspect in 2010 only 3 players from 2008 will remain, and only 1 player from 2009.

Everyone else will be kicked to the curb. I also suspect Bowe will be put up on the block this offseason.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And one of them won't be here in 2010.

Yep, after this year Colquitt will be it.

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by kaplin42

I suspect in 2010 only 3 players from 2008 will remain, and only 1 player from 2009.

Everyone else will be kicked to the curb. I also suspect Bowe will be put up on the block this offseason.

I think Carr,Morgan, Flowers, Albert and Dorsey will stick.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Ravens have been the most talented team by far. They draft the best. Trouble is they have never had a franchise QB, maybe Flacco becomes that guy but that is the major key.

I think the Ravens illustrate the importance of coaching, specifically the coordinator.

The defense has not played nearly as well this year as we have become accustomed to.

They lost a couple of players, but the biggest factor has been a new DC, with Ryan moving onto the Jets as the HC.

[LaChapelle]

Originally Posted by wild1

The Steelers have a culture that makes them one of the best organizations in the league. Their players don't mouth off, the locker room polices itself, and the veterans keep younger players in line.

I think it's more about - for most guys coming out of college - landing in a place where you're in a position to succeed. You take a guy who was not that great of a college player, and put him on the Steelers defense. He's in a great situation, he's with mature guys and on a good defense, he'll grow. On the other hand, you take a decent college player and put him on the Oakland Raiders, he won't grow.

It's not that the draft is a big game of Stratego and the Steelers never hit the bombs. Their culture is the major part what makes them successful, I think.

I have a real hard time believing Joey Porter kept his mouth shut. He went on to being called a bust in Miami. Bell went on to be a bust here, but that one may be laid at injuries doorstep.

It's team IMO