The Chiefs are now about 8th in draft order. What if the safeties are off the board?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by scho63

I would draft a Ryan Clady clone everyday of the week and twice on Sunday before I even looked at a safety!

Uhmm...oh boy.....Do you realize that most of our big plays on D occur because or poor safety play? Do you realize that that the middle of the field is left wide open every sunday because our safety's have to play so far back due to there lack of speed?

ever thought about the fact that our CB's can't play a lot of press coverage because they dont get adequate safety help over the top?

ever thought about the fact that we allow large run plays because or safety's are out or position often?

you do realize that Safety's often call the assignments/plays in the secondary right?

You don't think a pro-bowl talent player could make a huge difference for this D?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Uhmm...oh boy.....Do you realize that most of our big plays on D occur because or poor safety play? Do you realize that that the middle of the field is left wide open every sunday because our safety's have to play so far back due to there lack of speed?

ever thought about the fact that our CB's can't play a lot of press coverage because they dont get adequate safety help over the top?

ever thought about the fact that we allow large run plays because or safety's are out or position often?

you do realize that Safety's often call the assignments/plays in the secondary right?

You don't think a pro-bowl talent player could make a huge difference for this D?

Wrong.

You ALWAYS draft for need with your top pick.

That means we should definitely go tight end or Fullback with our first pick.

[Just Passin' By]

Who else plays for USC?

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Uhmm...oh boy.....Do you realize that most of our big plays on D occur because or poor safety play? Do you realize that that the middle of the field is left wide open every sunday because our safety's have to play so far back due to there lack of speed?

ever thought about the fact that our CB's can't play a lot of press coverage because they dont get adequate safety help over the top?

ever thought about the fact that we allow large run plays because or safety's are out or position often?

you do realize that Safety's often call the assignments/plays in the secondary right?

You don't think a pro-bowl talent player could make a huge difference for this D?

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

And you can draft offensive lineman later than the 1st round.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And you can draft offensive lineman later than the 1st round.

If another Eugene Monroe or Ryan Clady were available for our first pick, would you pass them up for a safety??? I wouldn't but that's just my opinion.

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by scho63

If another Eugene Monroe or Ryan Clady were available for our first pick, would you pass them up for a safety??? I wouldn't but that's just my opinion.

If that safety had Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu potential, yes I would in a heartbeat.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

If that safety had Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu potential, yes I would in a heartbeat.

Or how about another Deron Cherry!

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by scho63

Who the hell wants to draft a safety first? That's the dumbest thing I've heard on this board. Are you really Al Davis in disguise?

We need O-Lineman so bad it's not funny. I would use our first two picks and maybe a
4th or 5th rounder. At least 3 out of the top 5 picks.
We still need a reliable return man. Charles will be worn down if he has to do it all the time. Then maybe a safety with a 4th pick at the earliest. And a run stopper in the middle of the LB's.

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm not saying we couldn't use a safety but we can't go another year with the Swiss Cheese O-Line we have. Cassell will be dead by game 6.
Need protection, need to open holes, need to stop getting a million penalties.
That is priority #1

I think we can get a good safety via trade or free agency.

Name for me your top five NFL offensive lines. Then, tell me how many of them have multiple first round picks. I have not done all the research, but I am willing to bet you will not find many, if any, at all. The reason you will not find many is that you can find quality, even Pro Bowl offensive linemen in rounds 2-4.

In the first round you have to take an impact player. A playmaker. Period.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

Name for me your top five NFL offensive lines. Then, tell me how many of them have multiple first round picks. I have not done all the research, but I am willing to bet you will not find many, if any, at all. The reason you will not find many is that you can find quality, even Pro Bowl offensive linemen in rounds 2-4.

In the first round you have to take an impact player. A playmaker. Period.

1. Giants
2. Cowboys
3. Vikings
4. Saints
5. Ravens

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by scho63

1. Giants
2. Cowboys
3. Vikings
4. Saints
5. Ravens

Very good. Now, tell me how many first round offensive linemen each of those O lines have.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

Very good. Now, tell me how many first round offensive linemen each of those O lines have.

I'm going to have to do some homework for this.......

[DrRyan]

Originally Posted by scho63

I'm going to have to do some homework for this.......

Looking that up right now. Give me a minute.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by DrRyan

Very good. Now, tell me how many first round offensive linemen each of those O lines have.

Giants= no 1st round and one hi 2nd
5 U U hi2 3

Cowboys = two 1st and two hi 2nd
hi2 7 hi2 1 1

Vikings = two 1st
1 1 6 U 2

Saints (anomaly) = no 1st one hi 2nd
4 5 5 4 hi2

Ravens = two 1st
5 1 6 2 1

SOOOO it looks like it pays to have two 1st rounders and at least one high 2nd on your oline.. not saying you have to draft them to get them though....

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Giants= no 1st round and one hi 2nd
5 U U hi2 3

Cowboys = two 1st and two hi 2nd
hi2 7 hi2 1 1

Vikings = two 1st
1 1 6 U 2

Saints (anomaly) = no 1st one hi 2nd
4 5 5 4 hi2

Ravens = two 1st
5 1 6 2 1

SOOOO it looks like it pays to have two 1st rounders and at least one high 2nd on your oline.. not saying you have to draft them to get them though....

One of the Cowboy's 1st rounders you're counting is Leonard Davis who was a BUST at tackle in Arizona and has salvaged his career in Dallas at guard.