Chiefs The myth of Pioli

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-07-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

BB won 3 SBs with the rosters that they built.

BB shut down the Colts, Rams, and other high flying attacks, and coached the most dangerous offense in the history of football.
Pioli was the GM,and BB the coach when players such as Ty Law, Asante Samuel were acquired, along with Richard Seymore, and .. screw it, you know the names.

So far this season, the genius BB, has shown that his team is going to lose more games with Tom Terrific, at QB than it did with a Matt Cassel.

He's also shown that it's not his genius that won all those games. It was a special group of players who he, and Pioli, hand picked. If he was such a genius. He wouldn't be losing games, by constantly going for it on 4th, and he sure as hell wouldn't be getting his ass handed to him by Sean Payton.
Not to mention the fact that Tom Coughlin out coached him in one SB, and Mike Martz handed him another by not running the ball.
As far as all of you guys already giving up on a regime after one draft, and 12 games with one of the worst rosters in the league. I just have to laugh.
Is it very possible that they Fail? Ugh.... yeah, but they haven't failed yet morons. We won 2 games last year. We will probably win 4 this year. It's a start, and it as much as anyone could ask for considering the circumstances.
Nancies.

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

**The Franchise** · 12-07-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

beach tribe · 12-07-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

And yet you've already declared him a failure because he didn't fix this roster in an off season.. Yeah, we're the morons.

We should have traded away our first for Vernon Gholston.
SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!!!

ToxSocks · 12-07-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

Lol. I was thinking the same thing. Only not so rude. Pioli was NOT the GM for the Pats.

Regardless, I know this season has been a disaster, but im not ready to throw in the Towel on Pioli and Haley. I think they both have what it takes.

I admire Haley for sticking to his philosophy, and I think Pioli will get this team headed in the right direction.

Cassel, im starting to loose faith in though.

**HemiEd** · 12-07-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

Well, that should be encouraging to us, that he is also learning on the job.
He has made some strange moves, and some apparent bad moves. Hopefully, once he has time to put together a competent coaching staff, those moves will work out.

**SAUTO** · 12-07-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's amazing that none of you dumb mother****ers, in spending voluminous time defending him, still don't realize that VP of Pro Personnel isn't the ****ing GM of the team.

Scott Pioli has been a GM for one offseason and 12 games. That's his experience in this position.

ok hamas what EXACTLY DID pioli do in NE? enlighten us.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-07-2009, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok hamas what EXACTLY DID pioli do in NE? enlighten us.

He was basically a consultant.

It is well established that Belichick is the guy in complete control there. Hell, when NE replaced Pioli, they brought in a consultant to do so.

Guys like Bill Simmons (who have inside contacts w/ the Patriots organization) have said that Belichick wields all the power.)

Worst spin-off of the decade: Joey Tribbiani getting his own show, Heidi Montag's music career or Scott Pioli getting his own team? (Waiting.) Do you need more time? Fine, you can have more time. Just remember, my peeps back in New England always swore that Belichick made every minor/major decision for the Pats -- literally, every single one -- while Pioli was along for the ride like DJ Jazzy Jeff. Actually, that's an insult to DJ Jazzy Jeff. But you get the idea.

**SAUTO** · 12-07-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was basically a consultant.

It is well established that Belichick is the guy in complete control there. Hell, when NE replaced Pioli, they brought in a consultant to do so.

Guys like Bill Simmons (who have inside contacts w/ the Patriots organization) have said that Belichick wields all the power.)

Worst spin-off of the decade: Joey Tribbiani getting his own show, Heidi Montag's music career or Scott Pioli getting his own team? (Waiting.) Do you need more time? Fine, you can have more time. Just remember, my peeps back in New England always swore that Belichick made every minor/major decision for the Pats -- literally, every single one -- while Pioli was along for the ride like DJ Jazzy Jeff. Actually, that's an insult to DJ Jazzy Jeff. But you get the idea.

ok a consultant. wow. and then you quote a guy who says "my peeps say such and such" wow thats awe inspiring. do you actually think that BB could scout players, sign players, come up with playbooks, come up with offensive AND defensive game plans ( that week to week were like night and day) sweep the floors, etc? DO YOU?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-07-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok a consultant. wow. and then you quote a guy who says "my peeps say such and such" wow thats awe inspiring. do you actually think that BB could scout players, sign players, come up with playbooks, come up with offensive AND defensive game plans ( that week to week were like night and day) sweep the floors, etc? DO YOU?

You might want to read Patriot Reign.

It makes it pretty clear - BB surrounds himself with independent thinkers - and basically uses them as consultants.

The final say on everything is his.

Mecca · 12-07-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You might want to read Patriot Reign.

It makes it pretty clear - BB surrounds himself with independent thinkers - and basically uses them as consultants.

The final say on everything is his.

You are going to argue with Jason, I hope you have brought a helmet.

**SAUTO** · 12-07-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

You are going to argue with Jason, I hope you have brought a helmet.

why dont you take another extended absence. it's comical to think that BB did it all. comical

**SAUTO** · 12-07-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You might want to read Patriot Reign.

It makes it pretty clear - BB surrounds himself with independent thinkers - and basically uses them as consultants.

The final say on everything is his.

pioli was around for quite sometime before the pats with BB. i would bet that he was a little more important than that. we'll see. maybe they NEED EACH OTHER. BB isnt looking so hot himself so far on his own. maybe he'll be our next HC.

kidding kidding

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-07-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

pioli was around for quite sometime before the pats with BB. i would bet that he was a little more important than that. we'll see. maybe they NEED EACH OTHER. BB isnt looking so hot himself so far on his own. maybe he'll be our next HC.

kidding kidding

Ernie Adams has been with BB since the ****ing 70's - and he has no more power than Pioli or anyone else in the organization had.

Belichick had final say on all football operations decisions.

This is backed up in print, in interviews, etc.

It's really not debatable.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-07-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

ok a consultant. wow. and then you quote a guy who says "my peeps say such and such" wow thats awe inspiring. do you actually think that BB could scout players, sign players, come up with playbooks, come up with offensive AND defensive game plans ( that week to week were like night and day) sweep the floors, etc? DO YOU?

Yes, I'm sorry that I quoted a guy with inside contacts who is a fan who lives and dies with the team that he is talking about and has a direct emotional attachment with their success or failure.

Nor are there any other previously published reports that say the same thing.