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Old 12-07-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Progress won't come until the roster is overhauled.
BULLSHIT!!!!

If the Chiefs had added the right players in four or five key positions they'd be a much better team right now.

We could have gone after Brian Dawkins...instead we got Mike Brown.

We could have found a guard or tackle in an OL-deep draft...instead we ****ed around with Goff and Newdookie.


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Old 12-07-2009, 02:33 PM   #2
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BULLSHIT!!!!

If the Chiefs had added the right players in four or five key positions they'd be a much better team right now.

We could have gone after Brian Dawkins...instead we got Mike Brown.

We could have found a guard or tackle in an OL-deep draft...instead we ****ed around with Goff and Newdookie.


Brian Dawkins would look like shit on this team too.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:40 PM   #3
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Brian Dawkins would look like shit on this team too.
I doubt he'd be taking Mike Brown angles to the ball.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:35 PM   #4
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BULLSHIT!!!!

If the Chiefs had added the right players in four or five key positions they'd be a much better team right now.

We could have gone after Brian Dawkins...instead we got Mike Brown.

We could have found a guard or tackle in an OL-deep draft...instead we ****ed around with Goff and Newdookie.


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Old 12-07-2009, 02:36 PM   #5
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BULLSHIT!!!!

If the Chiefs had added the right players in four or five key positions they'd be a much better team right now.

We could have gone after Brian Dawkins...instead we got Mike Brown.

We could have found a guard or tackle in an OL-deep draft...instead we ****ed around with Goff and Newdookie.


What ****ing good is a 34?? yr old safety to us?
How will that make us a better team in the long run? You do know that the only thing that matters is the long run right? We are not winning 10 games with Dawkins the way Denver is, and I would be willing to bet, that if Dawkins was playing with Tamba Hali, and Not Elvis Dumerville, he would look like shit.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:41 PM   #6
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What ****ing good is a 34?? yr old safety to us?
What ****ing good is Vrabel to us?

Christ, who cares? The Chiefs had to do SOMETHING to improve this year. There is no way they wanted to rank in the bottom 5 on offense and defense again.

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Old 12-07-2009, 02:49 PM   #7
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BULLSHIT!!!!

If the Chiefs had added the right players in four or five key positions they'd be a much better team right now.

We could have gone after Brian Dawkins...instead we got Mike Brown.

We could have found a guard or tackle in an OL-deep draft...instead we ****ed around with Goff and Newdookie.


Sure, if all you care about is how the team looks right now, if the (false) perception that they're "getting better" in 2009 matters all that much to you. If winning a few more games during a losing season is a big deal to you, if going 8-8 so you don't have to suffer through any down times is more important that working towards a long-term turnaround. If you're a big fan of the way Carl Peterson did business. Which I am not.

As for me, well, in my view, the team would not be better in any meaningful way if they exchanged some of the scrubs that are starting now for different scrubs. YOU might feel better, if they'd won 4 or 5 games now instead of 3 (and there's no guarantee that anything would be any different with different names on the jerseys), but at the end of the day it would end exactly the same way: looking for replacements in 2010 and beyond to build the team that they want.

This year was not the time for bold free agent moves, in my opinion. I think they have to build the core of their team first, through the drafts, and then fill in the holes that way. All of the guys you're bitching about are placeholders for guys who'll be drafted later on. Which is I think the right approach.

Can they do it? I don't know. I do know it's not something that can be done in one offseason. Or two. And I'm not supporting Pioli or anybody else when I say that. What I am saying is that I can't judge the quality or lack thereof of their philosophy or approach at this point.

Because it's too soon.

Which I'm sure I've said before.

But by all means don't let me interrupt your hilarious overreaction and bi-polar weekly behavior.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:54 PM   #8
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Sure, if all you care about is how the team looks right now, if the (false) perception that they're "getting better" in 2009 matters all that much to you. If winning a few more games during a losing season is a big deal to you, if going 8-8 so you don't have to suffer through any down times is more important that working towards a long-term turnaround. If you're a big fan of the way Carl Peterson did business. Which I am not.
Huh? I'm not talking about just signing about a few old guys from free agency.

I'm talking about the draft. I'm talking about the RIGHT coaching hires instead of the wrong ones (Nolan v. Pendergast).

Do you really think Pioli and Haley were comfortable ranking in the bottom 5 on offense and defense this year? Do you think they are shrugging their shoulders as you are now?

BULLCRAP.
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Old 12-07-2009, 02:59 PM   #9
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Huh? I'm not talking about just signing about a few old guys from free agency.

I'm talking about the draft. I'm talking about the RIGHT coaching hires instead of the wrong ones (Nolan v. Pendergast).

Do you really think Pioli and Haley were comfortable ranking in the bottom 5 on offense and defense this year? Do you think they are shrugging their shoulders as you are now?

BULLCRAP.
I bet they're not a whole lot more surprised than I am. I bet they're not any happier about it than I am either. They probably hate losing even more than I do. And I hate losing in a way I doubt you can possibly even understand.

But, on the other hand, I do have the ability to grasp reality.

Which is a skill that generally comes sometime after you move out of your mom's house.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:02 PM   #10
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I bet they're not a whole lot more surprised than I am.
What the ****.

You basically believe Pioli and Haley resigned themselves to being a bottom 5 offense and defense before the year?

Do you not realize how ludicrous that sounds?

I think it's ****ing bullshit. Why fire Chan Gailey if you're gonna suck anyway? What would be the point?

Bullshit, keg. Bullshit.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:11 PM   #11
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What the ****.

You basically believe Pioli and Haley resigned themselves to being a bottom 5 offense and defense before the year?
If I believed that, I probably would have said it.

But go ahead, keep making stuff up.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:13 PM   #12
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If I believed that, I probably would have said it.

But go ahead, keep making stuff up.
If you don't believe they resigned themselves to sucking then you clearly believe they made moves with an eye towards improving the team.

So which one is it?
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