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Old 01-04-2010, 12:22 AM  
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With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:57 AM   #106
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It is very disappointing that just because they are the previous regimes players they are not good. That is the only reason Charles did not play. I have no doubt in my mind they were so arrogant that they could not see it. It worries the hell outta me.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:57 AM   #107
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Those guys had proven their worth. They weren't.

Charles has just now been given opportunities. He was never an awful player. Apples and oranges.
Tyler had proven his worth?

He's been in the league one year longer, playing a position that takes longer to master.

Sorry, Phil. But I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

And that's fine.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:57 AM   #108
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Wow 1 game at the begining of the year with a new regime who basically said this year was nothing more than a tryout.
If any of you guys really think they used an entire season as an open tryout, then our regime is even dumber than I thought.

That is seriously so ****ing reeruned it's stupid to even suggest.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:58 AM   #109
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If any of you guys really think they used an entire season as an open tryout, then our regime is even dumber than I thought.

That is seriously so ****ing reeruned it's stupid to even suggest.
Is it really? Is that why they are hiring 2 new cordinators this offseason? I already posted a few months ago about what Haley said about keeping 9-10 guys from the roster.
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Old 01-04-2010, 12:58 AM   #110
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It is very disappointing that just because they are the previous regimes players they are not good. That is the only reason Charles did not play. I have no doubt in my mind they were so arrogant that they could not see it. It worries the hell outta me.
Herms players are the only players on this team that are worth a shit, none of the guys Pioli brought in are, unless you dig kickers.
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Wow 1 game at the begining of the year with a new regime who basically said this year was nothing more than a tryout.
I'm not trying to isolate this post, but one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in year 2 is the absence of any bullshit about an "evaluation year."

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Is it really? Is that why they are hiring 2 new cordinators this offseason?
We call that making excuses for a GM shitting himself in his first offseason.
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Well, I'm not sure, but then again, I'm not saying that "I have no doubt in my mind" that this did or didn't happen.
Well, that's up to you.

Considering the way Herm's leftovers were treated, the reports of everyone being on the block, and the fact that Haley admitted earlier tonight that they were lucky that Jamaal "forced them" to look at him differently, I'll stick by what I said.
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We're to page 8 I'm still waiting for a source other than Nick Athan.
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I'm not trying to isolate this post, but one of the things I'm looking forward to the most in year 2 is the absence of any bullshit about an "evaluation year."

Chiefs 2010: No ****ing excuses.
This is what I have been saying for awhile Deez. Certainly if a college student can see Cassel was setup to fail this season the GM knew it too.
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Tyler had proven his worth?

He's been in the league one year longer, playing a position that takes longer to master.

Sorry, Phil. But I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

And that's fine.
He had 19 starts as a Chief. They decided he wasn't going to work for them. Farewell.

Now, if you want to put Bonecrusher out there as evidence - I'll admit some confusion.
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This is what I have been saying for awhile Deez. Certainly if a college student can see Cassel was setup to fail this season the GM knew it too.
That makes him a bad GM...
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We're to page 8 I'm still waiting for a source other than Nick "Assclown" Athan.
You should really set your views to 80 posts per page.
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Herms players are the only players on this team that are worth a shit, none of the guys Pioli brought in are, unless you dig kickers.
Now that's not true.
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