Chiefs tried to trade Charles

[Hammock Parties]

http://kan.scout.com/2/934713.html

With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.

[KC kid]

I agree with what has been said. You blindly have an agenda if you are all of a sudden taking Nick Athan's article and running with it. Yes, every player was available for trade. That does not mean that Jamaal Charles for a 5th was in the works. Nick Athan.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by tk13

Afterwards, Charles was offered to Detroit for a 6th rounder and a bag of potatoes, but Al Saunders turned it down.

Mecca gouged out his eyeball with a dixie cup and fed it to a homeless cat so you could post without being persecuted.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I smell BS on this one, just like i smell BS on 99.9% of the things WPI reports

[Donger]

GoChiefs: Puppet Master

[King_Chief_Fan]

consider the source and poster.......BS

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I read this thread and the game thread and it's evident -- and has been evident all year that OTWP has a HUGE vendetta against the new regime.

When a guy like that starts taking Athan's word as gospel...there is clearly an agenda.

And the trade didn't happen so it's a moot point...shit we were begging to give LJ away before he had his big 2005.

You know what my agenda is?

Being able to be proud of my favorite team again, instead of being the ****ing laughingstock of the league year, after year, after year.

Everyone thought Pioli was the ****ing savior. That coaching alone would get us near .500.

And as the year went on, and people realized they were dead ****ing wrong, the excuses started.

My attitude about this franchise hasn't changed one bit from DV, to Herm and now to the Executive of the Decade:

Make smart moves, and you'll get credit from me.

Do stupid shit, like bring in 45 players and get a WR2 and a PK out of it, and you're going to get crucified.

I want to believe in Pioli, I really do. I hope he knocks the 2010 offseason and draft out of the ****ing park - and I'll give him credit when/if he does.

Same with Haley. I hope to hell he learns from all of the mistakes he's made, but based n what we saw yesterday, it doesn't look like it. Maybe an offseason to sit back and reflect on how ****ing stupid a fake punt is on 4th and 8 from your own 28 is - and that's not taking into account that the pass was intended for the ****ing long-snapper. Or maybe he'll realize that a fullback pass to a QB shouldn't be on the playsheet, much less being dialed up when you have a lead on your opponent, on the road, in their territory, and you have all the momentum.

I desperately want this regime to succeed - because if they don't, it's another 5 years of failure, another 5 years of embarrassment, and another 5 years that passes without the possibility of getting that Championship those of us in our late 30's and younger have never been lucky enough to enjoy.

Or, you can keep trying to claim that I hate a franchise I've followed for 30+ years and have spent over $35k to watch in person. Your call.

Knowing you, I fully expect you to keep banging your drum, ignoring everything I just said. And have said in the past.

[-King-]

Wow, I never thought that people with the anti pioli agenda would side with athan. Nick ****ing athan. Why the **** do you guys believe him? The guy said he lost most if not all his inside sources to the chiefs...so how the hell did he get this story? If anything, it should have been whitlock, teicher, nick wright or any of the guys who still have press passes.

Once again, how do you believe a guy who has admitted to losing his sources? One that doesn't even have a press pass to the team.

Bullshit, meet wall.
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[LaChapelle]

Nick Athan's mock draft getting drooled over
NEXT DRAFT FORUM

[DaWolf]

Hey, we can rip Pioli or Haley on many many things this season. I would highly recommend using facts to do so rather than Athan's consistent BS.

Or were we still expecting Shanarat to be hired and Croyle to be traded for Brandon Marshall?

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

... My attitude about this franchise hasn't changed one bit from DV, to Herm and now to the Executive of the Decade:

Make smart moves, and you'll get credit from me.

Do stupid shit, like bring in 45 players and get a WR2 and a PK out of it, and you're going to get crucified.

I want to believe in Pioli, I really do. I hope he knocks the 2010 offseason and draft out of the ****ing park - and I'll give him credit when/if he does.

Same with Haley. I hope to hell he learns from all of the mistakes he's made, but based n what we saw yesterday, it doesn't look like it. Maybe an offseason to sit back and reflect on how ****ing stupid a fake punt is on 4th and 8 from your own 28 is - and that's not taking into account that the pass was intended for the ****ing long-snapper. Or maybe he'll realize that a fullback pass to a QB shouldn't be on the playsheet, much less being dialed up when you have a lead on your opponent, on the road, in their territory, and you have all the momentum.

I desperately want this regime to succeed - because if they don't, it's another 5 years of failure, another 5 years of embarrassment, and another 5 years that passes without the possibility of getting that Championship those of us in our late 30's and younger have never been lucky enough to enjoy.
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[DeezNutz]

I think we need to turn the page on many of these debates.

The first year for the new regime did NOT go well. There's simply no getting around that. There were failures in the draft, FA, and talent evaluation. Game management was often a travesty.

That said, Pioli and Haley are going to be around in 2010. I'm hopeful they'll have learned from their mistakes, and I'm also ready to start evaluating new decisions from here on out.

[tyler360]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think we need to turn the page on many of these debates.

The first year for the new regime did NOT go well. There's simply no getting around that. There were failures in the draft, FA, and talent evaluation. Game management was often a travesty.

That said, Pioli and Haley are going to be around in 2010. I'm hopeful they'll have learned from their mistakes, and I'm also ready to start evaluating new decisions from here on out.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think we need to turn the page on many of these debates.

The first year for the new regime did NOT go well. There's simply no getting around that. There were failures in the draft, FA, and talent evaluation. Game management was often a travesty.

That said, Pioli and Haley are going to be around in 2010. I'm hopeful they'll have learned from their mistakes, and I'm also ready to start evaluating new decisions from here on out.

Feel that way about Dayton Moore & Barnyard Trey?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Feel that way about Dayton Moore & Barnyard Trey?

**** them and their families.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

But since it is him, it's ok...and Hamas and ROR stalked him with emoticons the whole freaking thread.

Hey, look, it's more baseless ****ing lies from the board dumbass.

Search that thread and show me one instance where I stalked him around with or .

Hell, the only time I responded to him was when talking about the Lloyd catch, where people thought it was Carr's problem (because they are stupid and only watch the ball) and not Mike Brown who picked him off, and the other was to correct him when he didn't think a call was PI and it was.

But again, keep pulling shit out of your ass, because you don't have anything of real substance to post.