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T-post Tom · 01-08-2010, 05:50 PM

Tagliabue, Terrell Davis, Ray Guy don't survive HOF cutdown
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 8, 2010 6:11 PM ET

The Hall of Fame announced their 15 modern-era finalists on Friday.

Let's start with the bad news and go over the ten men that didn't survive the cut from 25 to 15.

These ten are out: Cliff Branch, Terrell Davis, Chris Doleman, Paul Tagliabue, Art Modell, Ray Guy, Aeneas Williams, Steve Tasker, Lester Hayes, and Kevin Greene.

Tagliabue's move represents a step back. He is a three-time finalist; his candidacy could be pending the current labor negotiations.

Guy and Tasker show how difficult it is for a special teams player to get close. Guy was a seven-time finalist, but missed for a second straight year.

Terrell Davis has not been a finalist and fell behind Roger Craig, who is a finalist.

The committee rarely recognizes defensive backs. The elimination of Hayes and Williams guarantees that no one from the secondary will get in this year. Hayes is a four-time finalist.

We'll post the 15 finalists shortly. In the meantime, Raider Nation has our sympathy because three of their players didn't make it further.

**Gonzo** · 01-08-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

Yeah... good luck there.
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**Buck** · 01-08-2010, 06:09 PM

Broncos fans are in for trouble if they are ever expecting TD to make it.

Look at how long it took DT to make it.

**Rain Man** · 01-08-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

How about his next 4?

I'm actually a big proponent of putting guys in who had injury-shortened careers. Davis is worth discussing in that vein, even if he was a Bronco.

The big knock against him, though, other than the short career, is the fact that Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson and some other guys did almost as well after him. I would contend that he's not as HoF-worthy as another fellow in a similar situation, William Andrews of the Falcons. William Andrews was a devastating blocker and could catch out of the backfield and produced roughly the same number of yards from scrimmage. He also had one more productive year, though it was cut in half by the 1982 strike, so his numbers don't look notably better for that reason. Andrews' career was destroyed by a knee injury just like Davis', though Andrews' injury wasn't caused by a chop block by his own cheating lineman.

Seriously, Andrews was the complete package.

**Buck** · 01-08-2010, 06:11 PM

Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins

Don Coryell – Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers

Jerry Rice – Wide Receiver – 1985-2000 San Francisco 49ers, 2001-04 Oakland Raiders, 2004 Seattle Seahawks

Shannon Sharpe – Tight End – 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens

Emmitt Smith – Running Back – 1990-2002 Dallas Cowboys, 2003-04 Arizona Cardinals

Quesadilla Joe · 01-08-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great.

When they open a "Hall of Players that had 4 great years" he'll be a first ballot guy.

But yet Gale Sayers makes it in and TD has 2,500 more yards, and has 20 more rushing TD's in his career than Sayers.

RJ · 01-08-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

So what's your point?

**Buck** · 01-08-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

But yet Gale Sayers makes it in and TD has 2,500 more yards, and has 20 more rushing TD's in his career than Sayers.

Times have changed dude. When Gale Sayers made the HOF 14 years after it opened. TD is having to be compared to 46 years of players rather than 14.

DrRyan · 01-08-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

In related news, the Broncos have a Super Bowl caliber defense, QB and Head Coach this season.

Thig Lyfe · 01-08-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins

Don Coryell – Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers

Jerry Rice – Wide Receiver – 1985-2000 San Francisco 49ers, 2001-04 Oakland Raiders, 2004 Seattle Seahawks

Shannon Sharpe – Tight End – 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens

Emmitt Smith – Running Back – 1990-2002 Dallas Cowboys, 2003-04 Arizona Cardinals

Yep.

**Gonzo** · 01-08-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

In related news, the Broncos have a Super Bowl caliber defense, QB and Head Coach this season.

What time do they play the bengals tomorr....

oh wait, the Chiefs did them a favor by beating them. Oh and they didn't knock them out of the playoffs either.
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TheGuardian · 01-08-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

It doesn't matter because it's still only 4 years, and the fact is guys around after him and were better in some aspects (Portis was unreal in his prime in that system) and nobodies churned out 1400-1500 seasons. Davis was nothing more than a product of that system, and he will NEVER make the hall. Nor should he.

KCrockaholic · 01-08-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

If you put TD's first four years in the NFL up with any other RB's first 4 years and TD blows all of their numbers out of the water.

TD had more yards per game, more TD's, and a better YPC than everybody in NFL history in his first 4 years not named Jim Brown.

Or Adrian Peterson after next season.

And I suppose you forgot about Eric Dickerson??

**notorious** · 01-08-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Or Adrian Peterson after next season.

And I suppose you forgot about Eric Dickerson??

Pfffff. Facts do not exist in the dream world of Bronco fans.

TD was a very good player on an excellent team. He is not HOF material.

**Gonzo** · 01-08-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Pfffff. Facts do not exist in the dream world of Bronco fans.

TD was a very good player on an excellent team. He is not HOF material.

I'm starting to wonder if Knomo is a mult. I've never seen someone this dillusional.
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**notorious** · 01-08-2010, 08:26 PM

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I'm starting to wonder if Knomo is a mult. I've never seen someone this dillusional.
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I wonder if he realizes he is crazy or if he is one of those people that are so dilluisonal he thinks that his world is real.

Homerism knows no boundries.

01-08-2010, 05:50 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1887293	no HOF salute for TD Tagliabue, Terrell Davis, Ray Guy don't survive HOF cutdown Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 8, 2010 6:11 PM ET The Hall of Fame announced their 15 modern-era finalists on Friday. Let's start with the bad news and go over the ten men that didn't survive the cut from 25 to 15. These ten are out: Cliff Branch, Terrell Davis, Chris Doleman, Paul Tagliabue, Art Modell, Ray Guy, Aeneas Williams, Steve Tasker, Lester Hayes, and Kevin Greene. Tagliabue's move represents a step back. He is a three-time finalist; his candidacy could be pending the current labor negotiations. Guy and Tasker show how difficult it is for a special teams player to get close. Guy was a seven-time finalist, but missed for a second straight year. Terrell Davis has not been a finalist and fell behind Roger Craig, who is a finalist. The committee rarely recognizes defensive backs. The elimination of Hayes and Williams guarantees that no one from the secondary will get in this year. Hayes is a four-time finalist. We'll post the 15 finalists shortly. In the meantime, Raider Nation has our sympathy because three of their players didn't make it further.
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Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $6150295	Cris Carter – Wide Receiver – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins Don Coryell – Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers Jerry Rice – Wide Receiver – 1985-2000 San Francisco 49ers, 2001-04 Oakland Raiders, 2004 Seattle Seahawks Shannon Sharpe – Tight End – 1990-99, 2002-03 Denver Broncos, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens Emmitt Smith – Running Back – 1990-2002 Dallas Cowboys, 2003-04 Arizona Cardinals
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