Chiefs Should the Chiefs have drafted Aaron Rodgers over Derrick Johnson?

**BossChief** · 01-11-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I have hated every coaching hire since Hank Stram was fired, with the exception of Marv Levy.

But of all those hires, Dick is the one I hated the most after Herman ****ing Edwards.

His Chiefs teams performed at about the level I expected.

Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?

TigerPig · 01-11-2010, 01:56 AM

In hindsight, yes. But at the time I would have been PISSED OFF if we had taken Aaron Rogers. I remember at around pick 12 when DJ was on the board and the Chargers didn't take them. I was thinking, OMFG he's still there! This can't be! Pick 13, 14 when Carolina was on the board. There was a few routes they could go but they went with an LB and it WASN'T DJ!!! I was sitting there for the next fifteen minutes going... "OH MY GOD THIS IS GOING TO BE SO KICK ASS!"

I have never been happier about a draft pick in my whole life. I know in hindsight this is reeruned, but I seriously thought he could be the next Derrick Brooks. Maybe he still could be under the right situations (which aren't in KC

).

FloridaMan88 · 01-11-2010, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?

Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.

**BossChief** · 01-11-2010, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.

the **** is that supposed to mean?

We were the only team in college or pros that Dick Vermiel didnt take to the championship game that he coached. He was a great coach.

GREAT

**DeezNutz** · 01-11-2010, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

the **** is that supposed to mean?

We were the only team in college or pros that Dick Vermiel didnt take to the championship game that he coached. He was a great coach.

GREAT

Grandpa can coach. No doubt.

But the push to win now and his complete inability to draft--and, yes, Grandpa was running the show almost entirely when he was in town, LJ aside--absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.

Funny that Herm gets the majority of the criticism around here. His plan to build a team was 100 percent correct. The problem was that he wasn't (and isn't) up to the challenge.

Chiefnj2 · 01-11-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

But the push to win now absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.

His job was to win now. Plus, it's been 4 years since he's left. Plenty of time to rebuild had it been done properly.

**DeezNutz** · 01-11-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

His job was to win now. Plus, it's been 4 years since he's left. Plenty of time to rebuild had it been done properly.

Thus my comment that he and CP were a poisonous combination.

Plenty of time? Sure, but we truly started rebuilding in '08 (thanks, Carl) and had a fantastic draft. The new regime and the new direction, however, undermined any of that potential progress, as we started over again.

TheGuardian · 01-11-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Grandpa can coach. No doubt.

But the push to win now and his complete inability to draft--and, yes, Grandpa was running the show almost entirely when he was in town, LJ aside--absolutely killed this franchise.

This organization would likely be exponentially better off had DV never come to town.

Funny that Herm gets the majority of the criticism around here. His plan to build a team was 100 percent correct. The problem was that he wasn't (and isn't) up to the challenge.

I agree. Vermiel is a good coach but he basically set the Chiefs back for a decade with his piss poor drafting and giving up of picks for players who wouldn't be here very long in order to win now. I will at least give Herm credit for trying to build through the draft. What'd you like to see is a Herm ran draft with Dickie coaching the team. The problem is, Dick did not really like rookies and young players a lot. Not at that stage in his career. He was too impatient when he got here. Not that I can blame him having to deal with the likes of Tony Banks and Lawrence Phillips.

**DeezNutz** · 01-11-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I agree. Vermiel is a good coach but he basically set the Chiefs back for a decade with his piss poor drafting and giving up of picks for players who wouldn't be here very long in order to win now. I will at least give Herm credit for trying to build through the draft. What'd you like to see is a Herm ran draft with Dickie coaching the team. The problem is, Dick did not really like rookies and young players a lot. Not at that stage in his career. He was too impatient when he got here. Not that I can blame him having to deal with the likes of Tony Banks and Lawrence Phillips.

And coaches.

The Chiefs started mortgaging the future just to get Grandpa in the first place, giving up multiple day one picks. Anyone who was excited about this was being ridiculously shortsighted.

The truth is, the owner never should have allowed CP to give up that kind of compensation for a coach.

milkman · 01-11-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Because he/she/it is a Herm Edwards professional dick sucker.

JFC dude, how many times do I have to tell your dumb ass that I ****ing hated Herman ****ing Edwards?

I hated his dumb ass when he was the Jets coach, and I sure as hell never wanted his dumb ass as the Chiefs coach.

About the only person with less intelligence on the planet than Herman ****ing Edwards is you.

milkman · 01-11-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why did you not like Dick Vermiel?

Many of the moves that the Rams made to assemble a staff and the talent to win the SB were forced on him.

Dick had become to soft and loyal, and given the kind of authority that Carl gives his head coaches, I never had any confidence that he would get the job done.

In the end, I was right.

01-11-2010, 01:56 AM	#2
TigerPig One with the Force Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	In hindsight, yes. But at the time I would have been PISSED OFF if we had taken Aaron Rogers. I remember at around pick 12 when DJ was on the board and the Chargers didn't take them. I was thinking, OMFG he's still there! This can't be! Pick 13, 14 when Carolina was on the board. There was a few routes they could go but they went with an LB and it WASN'T DJ!!! I was sitting there for the next fifteen minutes going... "OH MY GOD THIS IS GOING TO BE SO KICK ASS!" I have never been happier about a draft pick in my whole life. I know in hindsight this is reeruned, but I seriously thought he could be the next Derrick Brooks. Maybe he still could be under the right situations (which aren't in KC ).
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