Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 6

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html

Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

Otter · 01-14-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Your logic baffles me. A good ole boy network is a GOOD thing when the boys have SB bling. C'mon Mecca. Drink the kool-aid. It's purple (not grape), your favorite.

You leave Mecca alone!

No doubt he's somewhere suffering right now so you could make that post. He's led the way for all of us!

PhillyChiefFan · 01-14-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Great post. But ya might be a little short on the ring count. I believe that: Crennel has been in 6 SBs with 5 wins. Weis has 4 rings. Pioli has three rings. I may be wrong on the count, but I can't believe that some folks are still bitching about these hires. Unreal.

Exactly.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. We had Clancy Effing Pendergast as a DC last year.

Upgrades, no matter WHERE they are from are welcomed by me.

Otter · 01-14-2010, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

JFC...I don't think I can take it anymore. This fan base drives me nuts. I don't think there is anything anyone at 1 Arrowhead Dr. could do. Bring in someone who is an up and comer (Haley) and it's a colossal mistake, he's a piece of shit who can't coach. Bring in TWO mfers with Superbowl rings, and it's the crony system. Pioli is a fraud, it was all about Bellicheck. Same with Crennel, Bellicheck did everything and Romeo sat around and ate donuts apparently. Weis is good, but apparently he's a real asshole.

**** this shit.

Learn to laugh at it. Mecca will guide you.

Icon · 01-14-2010, 07:47 AM

I'm not sure whether the hiring of Weiss and Crennel puts more pressure on Haley or Pioli. After year one, neither Haley nor Pioli can brag too loudly about their accomplishments in KC. Haley's gameday decision making made me wonder WTF he was thinking and Pioli's first draft was even worse than the quality of free agents he signed. Games are consistently won by teams with the better talent and right now we are lacking talent on both sides of the ball. If we don't improve significantly next year the blame will likely be placed on Haley but Pioli needs to step up his game too. For me, the 2010 draft will be very significant for Pioli. He needs to demonstrate why he was voted NFL executive of the decade with NE and verify that he too wasn't simply riding the coattails of Bilichek.

**Iowanian** · 01-14-2010, 07:50 AM

This should be great bulletin board material before the 4th of July Hotdog eating contest.

It's not just football where this happens. I've seen many times in the corporate world where a middle management guy takes a big promotion to another company, and both companies immediately scramble, 1 trying to steal the people recommended by the new guy and the former to protect and retain their people.

When I'm in a position of need for expert advise, I don't look for the latest batch of college kids with the great GPA, I call people that I know are good at what they do, because I've worked with them in the past and trust their decisions and opinions.

If Jason Whitlock started a newspaper or sporting news website, I'll wager he'd call on writers and publishers he is familiar with to write columns for his front page too.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-14-2010, 07:51 AM

I'm predicting 200 posts...

Otter · 01-14-2010, 07:53 AM

You know what that sound is?

It's big 'ol ebony and ivory doing chest bumps after the Chiefs first playoff win in 16 years. Get out of the way Todd, you'll get crushed!

Deberg_1990 · 01-14-2010, 08:04 AM

Coaches are fine and dandy......but all Whitlock is saying is what all most of us know already: Its all about the QB

How would these NFC teams look with these guys starting:

Tavaris Jackson
Matt Leinert
Mark Brunell
Jon Kitna

TheGuardian · 01-14-2010, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

JFC...I don't think I can take it anymore. This fan base drives me nuts. I don't think there is anything anyone at 1 Arrowhead Dr. could do. Bring in someone who is an up and comer (Haley) and it's a colossal mistake, he's a piece of shit who can't coach. Bring in TWO mfers with Superbowl rings, and it's the crony system. Pioli is a fraud, it was all about Bellicheck. Same with Crennel, Bellicheck did everything and Romeo sat around and ate donuts apparently. Weis is good, but apparently he's a real asshole.

**** this shit.

Pretty much post of the early year. Esp in describing the crying and whining and bitching we have to hear out of Mecca and Hamas.

Hire a young up and comer as a coach? He's an idiot.

Hire guys with SB rings? We're just trying to be the pats and work the good ol boy network.

Like I said, some people bitch because they are miserable ****ing assholes. Not because anything is really wrong.

Consistent1 · 01-14-2010, 08:11 AM

In my case, I think they are good hires. My question is just how they all will work together and stay sane through the tough times. These guys are used to winning. Just hope there is no meltdown because the talent is still gonna be short of most teams.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 08:13 AM

So Twitlock is going to point out how Crennel failed as coach of the Browns.

Isn't there another coach that coaches in NE that failed miserably as ther coach of the Browns?

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-14-2010, 08:14 AM

My favorite part about this site is how quick most of the posters are to judge this new group of coordinators.

I really hope we do well next season. I would hope this would shut them up...but they would just find something out to bitch about because they hate their lives...

TheGuardian · 01-14-2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

So Twitlock is going to point out how Crennel failed as coach of the Browns.

Isn't there another coach that coaches in NE that failed miserably as ther coach of the Browns?

Ooooo Ooooo I know I know! Pick me pick me!

Chiefnj2 · 01-14-2010, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

JFC...I don't think I can take it anymore. This fan base drives me nuts. I don't think there is anything anyone at 1 Arrowhead Dr. could do. Bring in someone who is an up and comer (Haley) and it's a colossal mistake, he's a piece of shit who can't coach. Bring in TWO mfers with Superbowl rings, and it's the crony system. Pioli is a fraud, it was all about Bellicheck. Same with Crennel, Bellicheck did everything and Romeo sat around and ate donuts apparently. Weis is good, but apparently he's a real asshole.

**** this shit.

Did you just join the board? It's not about the Chiefs. It's about people who think they are smarter than every other poster and people who think they are smarter than guys who get paid millions to actually run the team. It's all about being able to say "I told you so" to hundreds of nameless and faceless people who don't give a crap about them anyway.

CHIEFS58 · 01-14-2010, 08:23 AM

"Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor."

Wake me when Whitlock quits being a shithead.

Guess Ill be out for a while.

01-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $980478	Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor. Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan. Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick). Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty. Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup. You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots. Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed. Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses. When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach. It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator. In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game. The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions. I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.) Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator. Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel. Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010. If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL. Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff. Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011. My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense. Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down. Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia. Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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Icon Starter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: flyover country Casino cash: $-2154900	I'm not sure whether the hiring of Weiss and Crennel puts more pressure on Haley or Pioli. After year one, neither Haley nor Pioli can brag too loudly about their accomplishments in KC. Haley's gameday decision making made me wonder WTF he was thinking and Pioli's first draft was even worse than the quality of free agents he signed. Games are consistently won by teams with the better talent and right now we are lacking talent on both sides of the ball. If we don't improve significantly next year the blame will likely be placed on Haley but Pioli needs to step up his game too. For me, the 2010 draft will be very significant for Pioli. He needs to demonstrate why he was voted NFL executive of the decade with NE and verify that he too wasn't simply riding the coattails of Bilichek.
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01-14-2010, 07:50 AM	#80
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1778454	This should be great bulletin board material before the 4th of July Hotdog eating contest. It's not just football where this happens. I've seen many times in the corporate world where a middle management guy takes a big promotion to another company, and both companies immediately scramble, 1 trying to steal the people recommended by the new guy and the former to protect and retain their people. When I'm in a position of need for expert advise, I don't look for the latest batch of college kids with the great GPA, I call people that I know are good at what they do, because I've worked with them in the past and trust their decisions and opinions. If Jason Whitlock started a newspaper or sporting news website, I'll wager he'd call on writers and publishers he is familiar with to write columns for his front page too.
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01-14-2010, 08:04 AM	#83
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $284454	Coaches are fine and dandy......but all Whitlock is saying is what all most of us know already: Its all about the QB How would these NFC teams look with these guys starting: Tavaris Jackson Matt Leinert Mark Brunell Jon Kitna
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01-14-2010, 08:11 AM	#85
Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	In my case, I think they are good hires. My question is just how they all will work together and stay sane through the tough times. These guys are used to winning. Just hope there is no meltdown because the talent is still gonna be short of most teams.
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01-14-2010, 08:13 AM	#86
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3988036	So Twitlock is going to point out how Crennel failed as coach of the Browns. Isn't there another coach that coaches in NE that failed miserably as ther coach of the Browns?
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Mr_Tomahawk Prestige Worldwide Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Spring Hill, KS Casino cash: $-29474	My favorite part about this site is how quick most of the posters are to judge this new group of coordinators. I really hope we do well next season. I would hope this would shut them up...but they would just find something out to bitch about because they hate their lives... __________________ Adopt-A-Chief: John Dorsey
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01-14-2010, 08:23 AM	#90
CHIEFS58 Smoke a turd. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Western North Carolina Casino cash: $10004930	"Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor." Wake me when Whitlock quits being a shithead. Guess Ill be out for a while.
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