Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 16

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html

Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-14-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Listen, I know you're frustrated by now. But I'm not trying to draw you in here. Cassel by all means looks like a big turd that was laid. I hope I'm wrong, but what have you got that indicates he's not? I'm just trying to conversate here.

I agree...he looked less then stellar last year.

Far from 63...closer to his qb rating.

I am just stating you can't fix EVERYTHING in one season. I am willing to focus on all the other holes around him this season. If he still shits the bed after that...then yes, he was a failed move. I would like to give him a chance within a system where the OC is not a rookie HC.

BigChiefFan · 01-14-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Yep, that Carl should have stayed. Let's judge Pioli after his one season in Kansas City and not use his entire body of work-that'll be sound reasoning.

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That explains overthrowing receivers by 10 yards? How about being so fearful of taking a hit that he can't make reads. As that line progressed through the year and held up better for him, why didn't he?

I'm all for looking at other options, but I'd like to see what Weis can do with him as well.

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

truth

whomever everyone hates ... he likes
whomever everyone likes ... he hates

Incorrect.

Last year I supported Pioli and Haley for a long damn time...until it was clear they had ****ed up, big time.

Now they need to prove something.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

I agree...he looked less then stellar last year.

Far from 63...closer to his qb rating.

I am just stating you can't fix EVERYTHING in one season. I am willing to focus on all the other holes around him this season. If he still shits the bed after that...then yes, he was a failed move. I would like to give him a chance within a system where the OC is not a rookie HC.

Good take. I hated that move from the beginning, but again, what do I know? I hope he does progress with Charlie, if anyone can do it, it's him. I think he'll be a much better QB in 2010, but will he be a franchise guy? That I don't know about. Frankly though, if the front office does their jobs everywhere else it won't matter. But did Scott know that when he signed him to all that money?

stevieray · 01-14-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That explains overthrowing receivers by 10 yards? How about being so fearful of taking a hit that he can't make reads. As that line progressed through the year and held up better for him, why didn't he?

seven different wr's. no continuity...especially on timing routes.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I'm all for looking at other options, but I'd like to see what Weis can do with him as well.

Agreed. Weis was a great hire not only because he is a master of what Pioli wants to do, but he'll be GREAT with our QB.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

seven different wr's. no continuity...especially on timing routes.

That's a great point. And one I'm a little embarrassed to have not considered before now. Who says rehashing the same talking points doesn't have benefit?

beach tribe · 01-14-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

truth

whomever everyone hates ... he likes
whomever everyone likes ... he hates

Somewhere deep down in gochiefs there still exist the fat,nerdy virgin with low self-esteem who decided that even negative attention is better than being ignored. He can change his outside but the inside insecurity issues are still there that too often turn him into an attention whore.

it's too bad too because if he would just stop all the shit he would be such a great poster.

Somewhere deep down inside?
Is he not still a virgin, and if not, he's only been with one girl.

I think GoChiefs adds more to this board than anyone with his works of art.
But as far as his football opinions................they are worth about as much to me as box full of condoms is to him.

Sorry GC. I really am, but it's true.

stevieray · 01-14-2010, 12:12 PM

who determines what a QB is worth? isn't there a going rate for starters at every position?

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Somewhere deep down inside?
Is he not still a virgin, and if not, he's only been with one girl.

The fact that this bullshit comes up in a football thread is a load of shit.

I'd stay celibate if it meant a football championship.

wild1 · 01-14-2010, 12:14 PM

Whitlock Column Checklist:

X "Wait and see"
X "Skeptical"
X "Unimpressed"
X "Not sold"
X "On paper"
X "Ego" (only once this time!)
X Supposed inside information from an unnamed player
X Nicknames assigned to people Whitlock doesn't like
X Backhanded swipe near the end of the piece ("Golfer")

(add your own!)

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That explains overthrowing receivers by 10 yards?

Not at all.
That was problematic and obviously something he needs to improve upon.

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How about being so fearful of taking a hit that he can't make reads.

I can't imagine why a guy who was sacked 42 times this season might be a little apprehensive in the pocket.

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As that line progressed through the year and held up better for him, why didn't he?

Bowe was gone for 4 of those games.
And it's not exactly like he had great protection down the stretch.

stevieray · 01-14-2010, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

That's a great point. And one I'm a little embarrassed to have not considered before now. Who says rehashing the same talking points doesn't have benefit?

and it took eight OL to get respectable...pros don't grow on trees..I'm glad they went through so many players, finding out who really wanted to play hard...I don't think anyone can deny they played hard in the last game.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-14-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Not at all.
That was problematic and obviously something he needs to improve upon.

I can't imagine why a guy who was sacked 42 times this season might be a little apprehensive in the pocket.

Bowe was gone for 4 of those games.
And it's not exactly like he had great protection down the stretch.

Good points, but still valid reasons for concern. Is Matt Cassel a leader? This team needs one bad. He's the most logical, and necessary choice. Can he do it? I hope so.

01-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $920478	Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor. Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan. Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick). Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty. Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup. You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots. Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed. Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses. When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach. It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator. In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game. The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions. I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.) Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator. Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel. Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010. If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL. Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff. Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011. My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense. Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down. Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia. Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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