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Old 02-18-2010, 10:58 AM   #1
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Yes, it's offensive. Then again, so is Black History Month. I can't seem to find White History Month on my calendar, I must've missed it. Maybe I should call the NAAWP and find out if they know when it is.

Yes, it's a stereotype. Then again, a lot of young kids act and dress just like they're making fun of. If you don't want to be ridiculed, try not to live up to the stereotype. I'm Italian, but I don't wear a wife beater with a big gold chain and a crucifix or Jesus head on it and drive a Camaro and say "yo" and "fuhgeddaboudit". If I did, I would expect to be ridiculed.

Racism, sexism, and stereotypes are only funny humor when they don't touch on you or people like you. That's the way it's been. That's the way it's always been. The world won't stop turning because of it any time soon.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:02 AM   #2
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Yes, it's offensive. Then again, so is Black History Month. I can't seem to find White History Month on my calendar, I must've missed it. Maybe I should call the NAAWP and find out if they know when it is.

Yes, it's a stereotype. Then again, a lot of young kids act and dress just like they're making fun of. If you don't want to be ridiculed, try not to live up to the stereotype. I'm Italian, but I don't wear a wife beater with a big gold chain and a crucifix or Jesus head on it and drive a Camaro and say "yo" and "fuhgeddaboudit". If I did, I would expect to be ridiculed.

Racism, sexism, and stereotypes are only funny humor when they don't touch on you or people like you. That's the way it's been. That's the way it's always been. The world won't stop turning because of it any time soon.
I can't believe how many people try to prop up this worthless and shallow point like it matters to them.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:11 AM   #3
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I can't believe how many people try to prop up this worthless and shallow point like it matters to them.
I dont think it necessarily matters to people that there isn't one(white history month). But what's black history month for anyways? Why is it only one month? Why isn't there an Italian/Mexican/Chinese history month and so on. At least that's what I think he's kinda getting at.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:18 AM   #4
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I dont think it necessarily matters to people that there isn't one(white history month). But what's black history month for anyways? Why is it only one month? Why isn't there an Italian/Mexican/Chinese history month and so on. At least that's what I think he's kinda getting at.
I'm sure he not.

And I am sure you are not either.

It is a tired and shallow argument and people who use it see it has this great "gotcha" type point.
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:19 AM   #5
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I'm sure he not.

And I am sure you are not either.

It is a tired and shallow argument and people who use it see it has this great "gotcha" type point.
wtf does that mean?
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:22 AM   #6
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I dont think it necessarily matters to people that there isn't one(white history month). But what's black history month for anyways? Why is it only one month? Why isn't there an Italian/Mexican/Chinese history month and so on. At least that's what I think he's kinda getting at.
Hispanic Heritage Month - September 15 through October 15

May is Asian Pacific American Heritage Month

October is the National Italian American History Month
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Hispanic Heritage Month - September 15 through October 15

May is Asian Pacific American Heritage Month

October is the National Italian American History Month
I think it'd be safe to say that most people do not know this.
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I think it'd be safe to say that most people do not know this.
I think its safe to say that is even more reason to see that kneejerk argument as shallow. You guys don't ACTUALLY care it is just a talking point.
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Old 02-18-2010, 12:09 PM   #9
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I think its safe to say that is even more reason to see that kneejerk argument as shallow. You guys don't ACTUALLY care it is just a talking point.
I think his point was that no one really celebrates or gives a rat's ass about "Jewish-Italian Grandmother Week" or "Hispanic-Irish Heritage Weekend". Those things a.) aren't paid attention to, and b.) were probably only created in response to Black History Month.

This isn't 1976. There's no more forced busing. Affirmative action has done it's job, and then some. Why is Black History Month so prominent?

America is a melting pot, yet only when it's convenient. So many ethnicities, religions, and lifestyles only want to "melt" when it's convenient. I'm tired of Black History Month. I'm tired of illegal immigrants protesting for their "rights" while being supported by people from their country, who are here legally, yet waving flags OF THEIR COUNTRY, not America's. I'm tired of everyone acting like it's my fault that the Natives lost their land and the blacks were enslaved. I didn't pilot the f**king ships. (In fact, the history of slavery in Africa also involves Africans enslaving Africans, for hundreds of years, but it's easier to blame it all on Whitey.) I'm tired of entire swaths of America acting put-upon. You know what? WE'RE ALL put-upon. We all have to deal with it. It's called bigotry, and it's not going away. Black, white, gay, Jewish, Asian, Mexican, female, fat, short, bald, thick-glasses-wearing, I don't care what it is... we all have a cross to bear. Where's my "Fat White Guy With Thick Glasses" Month, huh?!? HUH!?!?

And maybe the point should be that the young hip-hop "ghetto kids" they're making fun of probably could give less of a shit about Black History Month. They're too busy calling each other the n-word and pissing off Bill Cosby.

Just remember, kids, as the puppets in "Avenue Q" sang...

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

Kate Monster:
Right.

Princeton:
You're both Monsters.

Kate Monster:
Yeah.

Princeton:
Are you two related?

Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.

Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster:
What do you mean?

Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?

Kate Monster:
What about it?

Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?

Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-

Princeton:
You see?!

You're a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

Princeton:
But I guess it's true.

Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -

Kate Monster:
No!

Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

Kate Monster:
Right!

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!

Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

Kate Monster:
Okay!

Princeton:
There's a plane going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

Kate Monster:
And a black guy!

Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

Kate Monster:
Uh...

Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!

Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

Gary Coleman:
I don't.

Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.

Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.

Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.

Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -

All right!

Kate Monster:
All right!

Princeton:
All right!

Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white

All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.

Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.

Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton:
Who?

Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

Gary Coleman:
Racism!

Brian:
Cool.

Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!

Princeton:
What's that mean?

Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?

Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.

Brian:
I'm not!

Princeton:
Oh no?

Brian:
Nope!

How many Oriental wives
Have you got?

Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!

Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!

Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!

Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

Christmas Eve:
And I love you.

Brian:
But you're racist, too.

Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!

Princeton:
Me too!

Kate Monster:
Me too!

Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!

All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!

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I think its safe to say that is even more reason to see that kneejerk argument as shallow. You guys don't ACTUALLY care it is just a talking point.
It's always nice to hear you tell others what they care about...
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I think it'd be safe to say that most people do not know this.
Well what does the public ignorance have to do with it?

You argued (or maybe were talking about someone else who was arguing) that those months didn't exist, when in fact they do.
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Well what does the public ignorance have to do with it?

You argued (or maybe were talking about someone else who was arguing) that those months didn't exist, when in fact they do.
Well its just that BHM is the only "month" that ever gets talked about. You almost never hear about Hispanic history month or Chinese etc. You hear about BHM all the time on TV, radio. The others you don't ever hear about. That's not really public ignorance.
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I can't believe how many people try to prop up this worthless and shallow point like it matters to them.
IMO it's conterproductive in the sense that it's racially exclusive. I think that is the point people are making not that they really want honkey month.
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IMO it's conterproductive in the sense that it's racially exclusive. I think that is the point people are making not that they really want honkey month.
They are free to try and organize it. Not that anyone would want to go through that trouble because they don't actually care about it.

There is no law banning it or anything.
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They are free to try and organize it. Not that anyone would want to go through that trouble because they don't actually care about it.

There is no law banning it or anything.
That wasn't the point I was trying to make. As long as we make race an issue it will be one is a theory I buy into but that I really don't care about because birds of a feather will flock together and make fun of others no matter what. Exclusive is a human trait that isn't going anywhere.
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