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Old 02-18-2010, 02:19 PM   #1
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How convenient. Regardless, if you take the time (and I know you won't), there are several that you can find. So again, go **** yourself for denigrating their service.
Wait, so you do think that a Mexican national (who I presume you mean is here illegally) who signs up to serve in our military is being heroic?

Yes or no?
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:22 PM   #2
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Wait, so you do think that a Mexican national (who I presume you mean is here illegally) who signs up to serve in our military is being heroic?

Yes or no?
They have to be legal to sign up for service. I know you hate to hear that because you're trying to turn this into a thread about illegal immigration.

Beyond that, yes I do. I consider all our servicemen to be heroes because they do a job that I nor you would do.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:28 PM   #3
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Yes. Unlike you, there are thousands of Mexican citizens who have served in our military to gain citizenship[/COLOR][/B].
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They have to be legal to sign up for service.
So what you're saying is that they're legal immigrants, not yet U.S. citizens, and if they join the U.S. military they get citizenship? That's kinda f**ked up. I mean, first of all, it seems like a nice loophole for terrorists. Second of all, it's kind of like blackmail, and you could also see it as being very mercenary-like (except instead of cash they get citizenship).

Then again, we're also talking about a country (the U.S.) where you can join the military at 17 but can't vote until 18 and can't drink until 21...
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:30 PM   #4
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So what you're saying is that they're legal immigrants, not yet U.S. citizens, and if they join the U.S. military they get citizenship? That's kinda f**ked up. I mean, first of all, it seems like a nice loophole for terrorists. Second of all, it's kind of like blackmail, and you could also see it as being very mercenary-like (except instead of cash they get citizenship).

Then again, we're also talking about a country (the U.S.) where you can join the military at 17 but can't vote until 18 and can't drink until 21...
They can't become officers and they have to make it through the legal immigration process.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:29 PM   #5
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They have to be legal to sign up for service. I know you hate to hear that because you're trying to turn this into a thread about illegal immigration.

Beyond that, yes I do. I consider all our servicemen to be heroes because they do a job that I nor you would do.
Oh, so you were referring to Mexican nationals who already have permanent residency status?

And, if that's your definition of hero, I suppose we'll just have to disagree. Heck, many folks say that about illegal immigrants (just doing the jobs you or I wouldn't want to do). I presume that you don't consider illegal aliens to be heroes?
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:31 PM   #6
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Oh, so you were referring to Mexican nationals who already have permanent residency status?

And, if that's your definition of hero, I suppose we'll just have to disagree. Heck, many folks say that about illegal immigrants (just doing the jobs you or I wouldn't want to do). I presume that you don't consider illegal aliens to be heroes?
and there it is.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:32 PM   #7
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and there it is.
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Old 02-18-2010, 02:39 PM   #9
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Well, you just gave your definition of hero as being doing the job that others don't want to do. Many pro-illegal types give that as justification of illegals being here.

So, I'm merely trying to ascertain whether or not you think illegals are heroes.
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Old 02-18-2010, 06:20 PM   #10
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They have to be legal to sign up for service. I know you hate to hear that because you're trying to turn this into a thread about illegal immigration.

Beyond that, yes I do. I consider all our servicemen to be heroes because they do a job that I nor you would do.
This reply got me thinking. KC Native, if they are already legal (permanent residents), how does serving in the military help them get citizenship? Does it expedite the process or something? If memory serves, I had to wait seven years between getting my green card and being naturalized (and becoming a citizen).
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This reply got me thinking. KC Native, if they are already legal (permanent residents), how does serving in the military help them get citizenship? Does it expedite the process or something? If memory serves, I had to wait seven years between getting my green card and being naturalized (and becoming a citizen).
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