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Old 03-02-2010, 11:15 AM  
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Taylor Mays just ran 4.24 in the 40 (unofficial times). That's at 6'3" and 230lbs
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:55 AM   #106
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Your sig isn't really fair Mr. Flopnuts. You have to pick one of them. We can't have BOTH Berry and Clausen.
You've apparently missed my plan to accidently cause a freak genetic accident, creating a mutated QB/S named Eric Clausenberry.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:56 AM   #107
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You've apparently missed my plan to accidently cause a freak genetic accident, creating a mutated QB/S named Eric Clausenberry.
I'd rather have Eric Mayberry.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:57 AM   #108
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You've apparently missed my plan to accidently cause a freak genetic accident, creating a mutated QB/S named Eric Clausenberry.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:59 AM   #109
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I was pimping Taylor Mays, like 2 Novembers ago and also, I can do 24 reps on a decline plus 10 and one one handed just for style. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:05 AM   #110
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Crap, I was pimping Taylor Mays when he was a fetus. I heard he shot out of the birth canal in 3.2, but the electronic timing later had him at 3.5.
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Old 03-03-2010, 06:25 AM   #111
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And you traded your 1st rounder this year to get one in the 2nd last year. I love it.
and then because that corner they traded a first to get couldnt cut it at nickle they had to sign Ty Law!

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Wow, total reach by BossChief.
It isnt a reach one bit.

I said it before and Ill say it again after this, I would much rather us draft Clausen this year over Sanchez last year and that is after seeing Sanchez mature into a exciting young player.

Give Clausen Romeos defense to limit how much he has to do to win games and bring him along slowly and the kid could be very special.

Weis is a qb guru and he has three years worth of familiarity with the player and the player already has three years familiarity with the system as well. It is no stretch to assume that Clausen would definitely have to be in that conversation in a few years of development and adjustment to the NFL.

The kid has every tool to make it happen.

I 100% stand by that.

Ive also said multiple times that I think this is one of the strongest draft classes in the last 20 years overall. Many people said they disagree with that but I am now seeing scouts and other sources saying the same thing, so I must be reaching accurately, by somes opinion anyway.

If we drafted Clausen it would be the single most exciting draft pick of my lifetime. (31)
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:05 AM   #112
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Cleveland is the wildcard, Joe Haden's shit workout pushed him down.
Shit workout? He ran a poor 40. If the 40 time constitutes the entire workout, then you'd be correct. It doesn't, however. The rest of the drills he dominated. The only player who looked nearly as fluid in his group was Berry.
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I wouldnt be surprised if Haden fell to the very late 1st or even to the point Flowers fell because of his time in the 40. He plays a position that the 40 directly relates to his position and it showed he isnt fast enough to cover true #1s in the NFL and will need safety help.
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I wouldnt be surprised if Haden fell to the very late 1st or even to the point Flowers fell because of his time in the 40. He plays a position that the 40 directly relates to his position and it showed he isnt fast enough to cover true #1s in the NFL and will need safety help.
That's bull. If anything he'll drop from top-10 to top-15. First, he can improve his time at the Florida's pro day and make the whole thing moot. Secondly, he can't cover true #1's in the NFL? Please. He did a fine job of shutting down both AJ Green and Julio Jones, both who are expected to be top picks next year. He also shut down Marty Gilyard in the Sugar Bowl.

Flowers also fell due to lack of size and supposed character issues (remember the whole facebook profile image garbage?). None of that exists for Haden. If Flowers were 5'11 200lbs he wouldn't have lasted until the 2nd round, despite his 40 time.
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That's bull. If anything he'll drop from top-10 to top-15. First, he can improve his time at the Florida's pro day and make the whole thing moot. Secondly, he can't cover true #1's in the NFL? Please. He did a fine job of shutting down both AJ Green and Julio Jones, both who are expected to be top picks next year. He also shut down Marty Gilyard in the Sugar Bowl.

Flowers also fell due to lack of size and supposed character issues (remember the whole facebook profile image garbage?). None of that exists for Haden. If Flowers were 5'11 200lbs he wouldn't have lasted until the 2nd round, despite his 40 time.
I cant see a team spending a top 15 pick on a corner that runs a near 4.6 40. Thats my point. Falling to the second is extreme, but the top corner falls on more years than not and that time dictates he will fall.

With the absurd talent on defense in this draft, the kid will fall if he doesn't run a much better 40 on his proday.
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I cant see a team spending a top 15 pick on a corner that runs a near 4.6 40. Thats my point. Falling to the second is extreme, but the top corner falls on more years than not and that time dictates he will fall.

With the absurd talent on defense in this draft, the kid will fall if he doesn't run a much better 40 on his proday.
If he runs a 4.5 at his pro day his stock will be right back up. Game tape doesn't lie and 40 times are way overrated. Corners don't start in a 3pt stance and then run 40yds in a straight line. They backpedal, flip their hips and then run (and on routes with double moves, they may stop, flip their hips and then start again). Haden excelled in every drill except the straight-line 40yd dash. He still may improve on that in the next month.
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Nothing to do with upper body strength.......


So a 5 year old girl should be able to rep out at least 20@225 if it has nothing to do with upper body strength.

Why in the **** do the scouts have the players do something that has absolutely nothing to do with football? Why not have them write poems, or show the scouts their favorite hobby. That is a good comparison about how worthless this exercise is, isn't it?
I don't know. Strength coaches have been asking this question for years. Why do they have them do the 225 rep test when it's a piss poor indicator of upper body strength? It's a strength endurance test dumbass. The fact that you think it is a great measuring stick of upper body strength shows you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you're talking about here (and the fact that you think a 230 pound guy doing 23 reps with 225 is amazing when it's very ho-hum).

A max single on an incline bench press would be a better indicator of a guys upperbody strength in relation to football. Instituting a front squat to measure would be even more helpful.

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I don't know. Strength coaches have been asking this question for years. Why do they have them do the 225 rep test when it's a piss poor indicator of upper body strength? It's a strength endurance test dumbass. The fact that you think it is a great measuring stick of upper body strength shows you don't have a ****ing clue as to what you're talking about here (and the fact that you think a 230 pound guy doing 23 reps with 225 is amazing when it's very ho-hum).

A max single on an incline bench press would be a better indicator of a guys upperbody strength in relation to football. Instituting a front squat to measure would be even more helpful.



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315 squats for deep reps and 405 deadlifts for reps would be awesome. That would reflect overall power and core strength for football much more accurately.
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Could you a bigger enabler for USC players? I wouldn't care if we took Mays in the latter part of the first round but more than likely, the guy is going to be an epic failure of a player. He has poor football instincts and is stiff. People saying shit like "could be one of the best all time" need to get their head examined.
A little early to be called an "epic failure". Don't you have to be pretty highly touted to epically fail? He's a mid to late first rounder. Not sure that qualifies.
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