What is Chiefsplanet's take on marijuana?

[KCChiefsMan]

This is purely out of curiosity. I'm just wandering what the majority here think about marijuana.

Do you think it's good or bad for adults to smoke it?

Do you think it's harmful in our society?

Do you think it should be illegal?

If you think it should be kept illegal, what are your reasons for that?

What reasons do you think it is currently illegal for?


poll coming

[Brock]

Originally Posted by RedThat

Reallly? I find that hard to believe.

You need to get out more, I guess.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by RedThat

Yeah unless that person is a 4 year old girl I can see that as a possibility.

Clearly you've had a lot of exposure in society.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by Brock

You need to get out more, I guess.

OMG

[Brock]

Originally Posted by RedThat

Yeah unless that person is a 4 year old girl I can see that as a possibility.

Wow.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Katipan

All that to say that when I smoke pot it changes what I do after I smoke pot?

There is no change in how I think when I smoke. If a masked gunman were to storm into my house it would be an instant buzz kill. Only lasting effects would be that I just might giggle when I shot him.

I admit to short term memory loss, and the occasional body high that makes moving in any kind of upright manner difficult. But that happens if I pop a vicodin too.

Pot does change your behaviour or how you think, I don't see any sense in denying that?

Why do people do it to begin with? One of the reasons I believe is because they get a kick out of it. Ever see those people who laugh at everything that comes there way when they smoke up? Thats the weed doing its work. Thats the brains way of interpreting stuff a lot differently than when sober..simply put chemical reactions are taking place in the body which in turn alter your state of mind. That appies to interpretation of things and how you think.

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by tooge

What do you mean? They pay for it now. It isn't free. Instead of paying some guy they know taht has some connection, they will pay Quicktrip. Instead of the drug grower in Columbia making a killing, some farmer in Humbolt california will get rich.

My point is why would someone pay for something that i relatively easy to cultivate.

[Katipan]

Originally Posted by RedThat

Pot does change your behaviour or how you think, I don't see any sense in denying that?

Why do people do it to begin with? One of the reasons I believe is because they get a kick out of it. Ever see those people who laugh at everything that comes there way when they smoke up? Thats the weed doing its work. Thats the brains way of interpreting stuff a lot differently than when sober..simply put chemical reactions are taking place in the body which in turn alter your state of mind. That appies to interpretation of things and how you think.

People my age don't smoke pot so they can laugh at movies. I do feel a desire to smoke after reading your crap however.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by RedThat

You're simply referring to thought process.

How you think, or I should say, how you interpret certain things determines how your feel or handle things. To each his own, we all have our own way of thinking.

But here we are talking about a drug that causes chemical reactions in the body that triggers and effects your brain which can alter your state of mind in how you think, therefore, your thoughts are changed and behaviour too.

Uhhh what? Were you studying the effects when you wrote this?

The chemical reactions to MJ all occur in the brain. And have been well documented and understood. MJ is not a dopamine-related drug, such as coke or heroin. That's where the addiction factor comes into play, and that's why MJ isn't addictive. MJ's active stimulant is delta-9 THC. Which reacts with THC receptors in the brain. This reaction is essentially the same in any mammalian brain. Extended use shuts off some THC receptors, which causes tolerance. But unlike dopamine-related drugs, it limits the number of THC receptors that are turned off, so people who smoke all their lives can still get the same effects, although slightly higher doses are needed. Dopamine drugs don't do that, and will keep requiring more and more for the effect until the user's body gives out and dies. MJ also contains Cannibinol, which causes depression/paranoia/anti-socialness over time. Some people have the mental capacity to handle that additional effect with no outwardly social effects. Some people can't. No different than some people can handle tequila just fine, while others turn into Hulk and kill things. The Cannibinol buildup effect over time is what causes some people to start to feel too paranoid and quit smoking after using it for an extended time.

That's essentially what's happening.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by Brock

You need to get out more, I guess.

Whatever dude.

Explain to me how a person can be effected by 1 beer? I find that really hard to believe.

And you said you know of people that have to smoke up several times before they catch a buzz? Well, I'd find that hard to believe also IF, only if those people have never touched a joint in their lives. Chances are those people you are referring to are chronic pot smokers.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Brock

What you just said is absolute nonsense. I know people who had to smoke several times before they ever caught a buzz. I also know people who would absolutely be affected by 1 beer.

Yup.

I smoked 4 times before I ever got high.

Before that I had absolutely nothing coming. No high or intoxication.

5th time I was wasted.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Yup.

I smoked 4 times before I ever got high.

Before that I had absolutely nothing coming. No high or intoxication.

5th time I was wasted.

Ditto. It took me 3 or 4 times as well. The first time I really got high, I flipped out for about 4 minutes and told my brother he was going to have to take me to the hospital. He laughed, told me to sit back and relax. I did, and then I enjoyed myself.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

My point is why would someone pay for something that i relatively easy to cultivate.

same reason they pay for potatoes, tomatoes, fresh herbs in the garden, beer, wine, etc. I dont smoke pot, but i did in college. Lots of it too. I am 43 years old and have 3 or 4 friends of mine that light up fairly regularly and they are about my age. If it were legal, they would buy it. Guaranteed. Guys like you and me grow things in the garden and like doing it, so it isn't "work" to us. Some people are simply lazy and will go to the store for anything. Sort of like canning. It is easy to can tomatoes for the winter, but most people dont because they can buy them at the store.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

Uhhh what? Were you studying the effects when you wrote this?

The chemical reactions to MJ all occur in the brain. And have been well documented and understood. MJ is not a dopamine-related drug, such as coke or heroin. That's where the addiction factor comes into play, and that's why MJ isn't addictive. MJ's active stimulant is delta-9 THC. Which reacts with THC receptors in the brain. This reaction is essentially the same in any mammalian brain. Extended use shuts off some THC receptors, which causes tolerance. But unlike dopamine-related drugs, it limits the number of THC receptors that are turned off, so people who smoke all their lives can still get the same effects, although slightly higher doses are needed. Dopamine drugs don't do that, and will keep requiring more and more for the effect until the user's body gives out and dies. MJ also contains Cannibinol, which causes depression/paranoia/anti-socialness over time. Some people have the mental capacity to handle that additional effect with no outwardly social effects. Some people can't. No different than some people can handle tequila just fine, while others turn into Hulk and kill things. The Cannibinol buildup effect over time is what causes some people to start to feel too paranoid and quit smoking after using it for an extended time.

That's essentially what's happening.

Thank you for your input.

So then its the agents in the drug(Cannibinol) which causes depression/paranoia/anti-socialness over time. You referred to mental capacity in how some can handle it while others can't, and this is what I trying to get at it in how everybody body is different.

[The Poz]

Originally Posted by RedThat

Whatever dude.

Explain to me how a person can be effected by 1 beer? I find that really hard to believe.

And you said you know of people that have to smoke up several times before they catch a buzz? Well, I'd find that hard to believe also IF, only if those people have never touched a joint in their lives. Chances are those people you are referring to are chronic pot smokers.

It's relative to how much you consume. One beer and one joint are miles apart just like a tall glass of beer and a tall glass of vodka.
You simply can't compare the two as they also have different effects. Pot makes most peaceful and happy while booze may make people hot-headed and depressed.

[Inspector]

Originally Posted by RedThat

But how can one roll with a chemical compound that has the ability to control and alter your state of mind though?

Thats the question.

My understanding is you don't have to roll. Some folks use pipes and vaporizers - whatever that is.