Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high - Page 2

**dirk digler** · 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-16-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

the thread title should read "The Chiefs Will Never Draft a Playmaker"

I can't recall the last playmaker the Chiefs drafted (sorry true fans, I don't consider TG a playmaker. Or the TE position in general)

Jared Allen, who they fell backasswards into - they drafted him to be a long snapper.

Derrick Thomas.

20 years of fail.

Dayze · 03-16-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jared Allen, who they fell backasswards into - they drafted him to be a long snapper.

Derrick Thomas.

20 years of fail.

Allen...yep. I spaced that one. and good point about him being drafted as a LS. JFC...this team drives me nuts.

yeah, after DT, I can't recall any.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

There's a lot of groupthink going on about this guy, similar to Derrick Johnson. I'm betting the other way.

Taking the field is assures you of the best odds, no doubt, but it's tough to argue against the empirical evidence amassed in Berry's college career.

And he does NOT have the type of shortcoming that trailed Johnson out of Texas.

Not saying the kid is perfect--I agree the hype is getting too large--but he's a legit, elite prospect for sure.

Deberg_1990 · 03-16-2010, 10:32 AM

3 years in a row of top 5 picks

0 playmakers Incredible...

**dirk digler** · 03-16-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

There's a lot of groupthink going on about this guy, similar to Derrick Johnson. I'm betting the other way.

We are in desperate need of playmakers and to pass one up I think is crazy.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-16-2010, 10:34 AM

I've been saying this for weeks and have been lambasted by a few members here.

Pioli doesn't covet playmakers before lineman. Until his lines are "in place", they'll continue to pull guys off the scrap heap to play WR, RB, QB & safety.

We're just lucky that Flowers & Carr were already in place. Look at Pioli's fourth round pick in Donald Washington last year.

Washington made Bartee look like a perennial All-Pro.

Jerm · 03-16-2010, 10:34 AM

I've already resigned myself to Berry falling to us at #5...I get excited...the commish reads BRYAN BULAGA or some other shit...night ruined.

Ugh.
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**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jared Allen, who they fell backasswards into - they drafted him to be a long snapper.

Derrick Thomas.

20 years of fail.

Gonzo has to be in the discussion.

I don't care that he was a TE. He was used more similarly to that of a possession WR, and the dude consistently moved the chains on third down, the most critical *plays* in a drive.

Now, do I think that the TE, even a transcendent one like Gonzo, should be a cornerstone? No. But that's a different debate entirely.

Bottom line is that Gonzo had a profound impact on games, and I think too often the best players are undervalued because of larger issues of incompetency in the organization.

KCUnited · 03-16-2010, 10:36 AM

Wife flew to Orlando on Sunday for business, so I promptly grabbed some bbq and rewatched the KC/Denver game from Jan. I had forgotten that our starting safety John McGraw was forced from the game in the 1st quarter, his back up? Ricky Price, inserted into the game. If that doesn't scream safety at 5 I don't know what does.

**jAZ** · 03-16-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Either take the QB or trade down.

How rarely we agree. But in this case, 100%.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 10:36 AM

LJ, for a very brief period of time, was absolutely a playmaker.

Reerun_KC · 03-16-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Wife flew to Orlando on Sunday for business, so I promptly grabbed some bbq and rewatched the KC/Denver game from Jan. I had forgotten that our starting safety John McGraw was forced from the game in the 1st quarter, his back up? Ricky Price, inserted into the game. If that doesn't scream safety at 5 I don't know what does.

I sure would like to have a copy of that. My son and I were talking how we would like to watch that in HD...

**jAZ** · 03-16-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Wife flew to Orlando on Sunday for business, so I promptly grabbed some bbq and rewatched the KC/Denver game from Jan. I had forgotten that our starting safety John McGraw was forced from the game in the 1st quarter, his back up? Ricky Price, inserted into the game. If that doesn't scream safety at 5 I don't know what does.

That we won that game with some dude named Ricky Price at safety says a lot about how easy it is to get back without a #5 overall safety.

Coogs · 03-16-2010, 10:39 AM

77 people in another thread on the front page have said our 2nd round pick from last year is going to be a playmaker. Going to take us to the bowl and win.

KCUnited · 03-16-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

That we won that game with some dude named Ricky Price at safety says a lot about how easy it is to get back without a #5 overall safety.

Gaffney went for 215 by himself.

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Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $4458996	I've already resigned myself to Berry falling to us at #5...I get excited...the commish reads BRYAN BULAGA or some other shit...night ruined. Ugh. Posted via Mobile Device
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