Chiefs Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high - Page 18

**dirk digler** · 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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http://www.arrowheadpride.com/

I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:31 PM

now do I think they maybe said...

"Hey, we like this guy...we think he has upside...maybe he'll make for a great DE someday...and if not he can always double as a long snapper so win/win!"

What do you morons think the more likely scenario was for our 4th round pick?

You're the ones with all of the common sense after all.

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

there was that waterboy at south central louisiana st that turned into an awesome linebacker
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Vermeil suggested they try him at LB...that's all I know.

and if not he was always a top tier water guy

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:33 PM

only on chiefsplanet...

"Vermeil was so bad with his drafts that even the few picks he got right he drafted them for different purposes!!!!"

I think they actually drafted Jared Allen to be Eric Hicks' designated driver...

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:33 PM

or was it Warfields?

I forget...

OTWP you have a quote for me on this one?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-16-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

something doesnt add up here. hamas' quote says they were going to get rid of the snapper, you say that the 20 sacks in 2 years made them not do it. well IMO if they were going to get rid of gammon why didnt they just do it right off the bat?

Because he was a rookie and Vermeil, like Marty before him, didn't trust rookies.

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because he was a rookie and Vermeil, like Marty before him, didn't trust rookies.

Exactly.

That's why it was so hard to replace Boerigter as towel boy when he started playing WR...

They just didn't feel comfortable hiring someone off the street...

Boerigter had to double down as WR/towel boy the following year and that's why his play quickly diminished...

They didn't want to make the same mistake with Allen...so they kept Gammon.

BryanBusby · 03-16-2010, 06:41 PM

In my view, Gammon was kept because although they wanted to dump his higher amount he was raking in as a tenured veteran, he was still doing his one task damn well.

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

In my view, Gammon was kept because although they wanted to dump his higher amount he was raking in as a tenured veteran, he was still doing his one task damn well.

which naturally forced Jared Allen to defensive end...and then he just lucked out and became the best DE in the NFL...

we actually had no idea when we drafted him he even played defense in college...we just drafted him in the 4th round because long snappers are such hot commodities in the NFL.

Hootie · 03-16-2010, 06:43 PM

shit Hamas...

you think Gholston could be a long snapper in New York?

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 06:44 PM

Vermeil was probably disappointed he wasn't able to trade away that fourth rounder for another quality-control assistant.

BryanBusby · 03-16-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

which naturally forced Jared Allen to defensive end...and then he just lucked out and became the best DE in the NFL...

we actually had no idea when we drafted him he even played defense in college...we just drafted him in the 4th round because long snappers are such hot commodities in the NFL.

I'm not sure if the result of Gammons still playing well was, "well ****, we must make sure Jared Allen pans out as a DE now." Giving what took place during that era, it feels like Vermeil and Carl found the draft to be more of a nice supplement if it works out and not something that's vital to do well in.

They just lucked out that Allen did well enough at DE instead of having to try and sneak him onto the PS like Lilja.

Hammock Parties · 03-16-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I'm not sure if the result of Gammons

****, it will never end.

**DeezNutz** · 03-16-2010, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

****, it will never end.

Sure it will...always in an "s."

**BossChief** · 03-16-2010, 07:02 PM

Well, if we take Berry at 5 he will be getting paid almost exactly like the player he is most compared to

2009 #5 pick salary:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=5192
6/10/2009: Signed a five-year, $44.5 million contract. The deal includes $28 million guaranteed. Sanchez can earn $6 million more via "likely to be earned" incentives. Another $9.5 million is available through escalators, but they are "unlikely to be earned." 2009: $2.545 million, 2010: $3,181,250 (+ $10 million guaranteed option bonus), 2011: $3,817,500, 2012: $4,453,750, 2013: $5.09 million, 2014: Free Agent

This was Sanchez' rookie contract and given that it is basically slotted but a premium is given to qbs, the contract for our #5 pick should be very close in terms of years and total value given the natural inflation year to year and the fact he isnt a qb. I would expect the contract to be within 10% of Sanchez'

Ed Reeds salary
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=2222
6/27/2006: Signed a six-year, $44.4 million contract extension through 2012. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.5 million signing bonus and option bonuses of $6 million and $1.5 million in the second and third years. 2009: $3.6 million, 2010: $6 million, 2011: $6.5 million, 2012: $7.2 million, 2013: Free Agent

kinda crazy huh?

BryanBusby · 03-16-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

****, it will never end.

ugh I have no idea why I did that

If it's any consolation, I'm can properly type Chase Daniel and not Daniels.

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	now do I think they maybe said... "Hey, we like this guy...we think he has upside...maybe he'll make for a great DE someday...and if not he can always double as a long snapper so win/win!" What do you morons think the more likely scenario was for our 4th round pick? You're the ones with all of the common sense after all.
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03-16-2010, 06:33 PM	#258
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	only on chiefsplanet... "Vermeil was so bad with his drafts that even the few picks he got right he drafted them for different purposes!!!!" I think they actually drafted Jared Allen to be Eric Hicks' designated driver...
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03-16-2010, 06:43 PM	#264
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03-16-2010, 07:02 PM	#269
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1685912	Well, if we take Berry at 5 he will be getting paid almost exactly like the player he is most compared to 2009 #5 pick salary: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=5192 6/10/2009: Signed a five-year, $44.5 million contract. The deal includes $28 million guaranteed. Sanchez can earn $6 million more via "likely to be earned" incentives. Another $9.5 million is available through escalators, but they are "unlikely to be earned." 2009: $2.545 million, 2010: $3,181,250 (+ $10 million guaranteed option bonus), 2011: $3,817,500, 2012: $4,453,750, 2013: $5.09 million, 2014: Free Agent This was Sanchez' rookie contract and given that it is basically slotted but a premium is given to qbs, the contract for our #5 pick should be very close in terms of years and total value given the natural inflation year to year and the fact he isnt a qb. I would expect the contract to be within 10% of Sanchez' Ed Reeds salary http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=2222 6/27/2006: Signed a six-year, $44.4 million contract extension through 2012. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $7.5 million signing bonus and option bonuses of $6 million and $1.5 million in the second and third years. 2009: $3.6 million, 2010: $6 million, 2011: $6.5 million, 2012: $7.2 million, 2013: Free Agent kinda crazy huh? __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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