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Old 03-16-2010, 10:17 AM  
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Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high
I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

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I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:
"And KC would never take [safety] that high."
Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:09 PM   #286
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Holthus has been a reerun for years when it comes to this shit.....his takes on players that the Chiefs should draft or sign is always awful.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:45 PM   #287
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Every time I hear Mitch Holthus do an interview it completely confirms what a dipshit the guy is.

Of course he's the same guy that thought we should use a top 5 pick on Limas Sweed.
You're exaggerating, right? I mean...seriously?
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:46 PM   #288
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It's a high risk decision that CP and Pioli (somewhat understandable in his first year) didn't have the balls to make-

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...worth-the-risk

Twenty quarterbacks who entered the league between 1970 and 2006 have started for teams that won the Super Bowl, and of those 20, 11 were drafted in the first round. Of all quarterbacks drafted in the first round, 14 percent have started on the team that won the Super Bowl.
stupid question time
how many won the bowl for the team that drafted them?

I am in the need a line before we kill a first round qb
but I wann draft BERRY OR SUH IF HE FALLS
NO O LINE IN FIRST ROUND
NO WR
NO RB
just my opinion
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:47 PM   #289
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God, now the rats are eating Holthus' brain, too?
He's always been a dumb mother****er who happened to be a good play-by-play man.

The only way he'd be worth a damn about the draft is if he were calling it as it happened. If he has to insert his own knowledge, he's ****ed.
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You're exaggerating, right? I mean...seriously?
No I'm not, he really pimped Limas Sweed as the Chiefs pick that year.
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No I'm not, he really pimped Limas Sweed as the Chiefs pick that year.
Weak.

Holthus does a nice job as a play by play guy, but that confirms his football knowledge is garbage.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:53 PM   #292
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Why is taking a safety at 5 a risk? If anything taking a safety is taking a position that is not a big gamble. Especially when it's a guy like Eric Berry, who is one of the most perfect prospects to come along in years. Does anyone even remember a highly-touted safety who busted big time? Sean Taylor, maybe, but he DIED. Even Michael Huff has turned into a pretty good player. Berry is a better prospect than Huff. I dunno about Taylor...

A risky pick is taking a quarterback who has only one year of starting experience (Sanchez) or gambling on someone like Randy Moss....which is why Moss fell. I don't see any big risks with Eric Berry.
Its not really a risk....

Its more about GM's dont think a safety is as valuable as a LT, QB, Pass Rusher....

They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
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They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
Yeah...cause Reed and Polomalu don't really make plays for their teams.
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I bet Eric Berry has more impact on games than Tyson Jackson does.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:55 PM   #295
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Does anyone think they know what Pioli will do ....... really?

even the Pioli haters say he's totally unpredictable(in a bad way) so who the hell knows.
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Its not really a risk....

Its more about GM's dont think a safety is as valuable as a LT, QB, Pass Rusher....

They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
Well, then we should be fine from this perspective, since Pioli showed last year that he didn't care about all that.
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Yeah...cause Reed and Polomalu don't really make plays for their teams.
Im not saying you wrong....im just telling youhow teams think.

Look how many safetys have been picked top 5 in the past 20 years...
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Pioli's one trait is that he values fat bodies, especially ones on the DL.
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Pioli's one trait is that he values fat bodies, especially ones on the DL.
Yes..there you go. Thats why all these draft threads amuse me. Its all round and round....when we all know exactly who Pioli is going to pick. 95% sure its going to be a lineman.

Personally, i wish they would take Claussen....but Pioli wont do it. Wouldnt shock me if they drafted a QB on the 2nd or 3rd day this year.
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Its not really a risk....

Its more about GM's dont think a safety is as valuable as a LT, QB, Pass Rusher....

They dont want to pick a safety high because they dont want to pay top $$ to a position that they dont think has as much impact on a game as those others.
Or the fact that KC hasn't drafted a good safety in 20 years or so.

I think I've changed my mind on Berry.

If we take Berry and he does play as expected that's like beating the Colts in the playoffs. That's like breaking a spell. It means things really ARE different now...
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